QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

redskin29633 · 02-14-2012, 01:50 PM

Redskins likely to pass on Flynn at QB | Washington Examiner

Many of you are probably thinking, "Why is this guy bringing up Flynn again? We have moved on from him!" Its not that I think Flynn is necessarily the answer to our QB problem, but I do think he is a viable option. He could be the answer, even the best option available.

The Examiner article seems to suggest that the Redskins have not moved off their opinion of Flynn since his exit from college. The story fruther observes that many NFL scouts now have a very different opinion of Flynn, but oh no, not the Redskins! The Redskins are not changing their dogmatic view of Flynn as an option for our QB starved team and fans.

This article just rubs me wrong. Of all the names mentioned as possible successors to Grossman, Flynn seems like one of the best and most logical options to me. But since the Redskins are unwilling to change their early/initial view of him, they will not likely consider him as a QB solution in 2012.

Leadership changes, but it seems that the Redskins get stuck with old ideas and just cant seem to move off them. Just like Manning, there is a lot of new info on Peyton, his injury, his prospects for rehab and recovery, and the effects of all that on his passing skills. But somehow, I get the impression that the Redskins still view him as a Super Bowl, franchise caliber QB. What about the new information? Shouldn't that matter to us? What about the empirical evidence that we have on Flynn? Surely that matters!

Evidently not, the Redskins seem to be still stuck in the "once established, never change mode" when it comes to player evaluation. Sorry for the rant, but the Redskins need to wake up, catch up with current thinking, stop being so D#&N dogmatic in their views of facts, and the impact those facts have on player performance. Skills erode; players get worse; some players get better with experience and instruction. WAKE UP!

MTK · 02-14-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by redskin29633

Redskins likely to pass on Flynn at QB | Washington Examiner

Many of you are probably thinking, "Why is this guy bringing up Flynn again? We have moved on from him!" Its not that I think Flynn is necessarily the answer to our QB problem, but I do think he is a viable option. He could be the answer, even the best option available.

The Examiner article seems to suggest that the Redskins have not moved off their opinion of Flynn since his exit from college. The story fruther observes that many NFL scouts now have a very different opinion of Flynn, but oh no, not the Redskins! The Redskins are not changing their dogmatic view of Flynn as an option for our QB starved team and fans.

This article just rubs me wrong. Of all the names mentioned as possible successors to Grossman, Flynn seems like one of the best and most logical options to me. But since the Redskins are unwilling to change their early/initial view of him, they will not likely consider him as a QB solution in 2012.

Leadership changes, but it seems that the Redskins get stuck with old ideas and just cant seem to move off them. Just like Manning, there is a lot of new info on Peyton, his injury, his prospects for rehab and recovery, and the effects of all that on his passing skills. But somehow, I get the impression that the Redskins still view him as a Super Bowl, franchise caliber QB. What about the new information? Shouldn't that matter to us? What about the empirical evidence that we have on Flynn? Surely that matters!

Evidently not, the Redskins seem to be still stuck in the "once established, never change mode" when it comes to player evaluation. Sorry for the rant, but the Redskins need to wake up, catch up with current thinking, stop being so D#&N dogmatic in their views of facts, and the impact those facts have on player performance. Skills erode; players get worse; some players get better with experience and instruction. WAKE UP!

I don't think the Skins are alone in doubting Flynn.

redskin29633 · 02-14-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't think the Skins are alone in doubting Flynn.

Misery loves company, I suppose.

MTK · 02-14-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redskin29633

Misery loves company, I suppose.

Or maybe there are reasons why he was a 7th round draft pick.

Would you have any concerns about giving him a big money contract based on little we've seen from him?

mooby · 02-14-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or maybe there are reasons why he was a 7th round draft pick.

Would you have any concerns about giving him a big money contract based on little we've seen from him?

None whatsoever. He's had one brilliant game out of 3 or 4 total, so using my completely logical theory that means he's worth a 5 year, 100 mil contract with 50 mil signing bonus. Lock it up!

redskin29633 · 02-14-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or maybe there are reasons why he was a 7th round draft pick.

Would you have any concerns about giving him a big money contract based on little we've seen from him?

Well, as to your first point, that's what I am talking about. Just because he was a 7th round pick out of college does not mean that he has not learned and improved. We have some empirical evidence that he can play in the NFL, and play effectively.

Second point, my thinking is that the market for him is more in line for a medium money contract. He has not earned a big money deal yet, which is part of the attraction in my mind. Why cant the Redskins take a player on the way up, instead of one on the way down (i.e. Peyton Manning).

Bottom line, I just fail to see the logic of ruling him out altogether as an option right now.

Dirtbag59 · 02-14-2012, 09:03 PM

I agree that there's legitimate concerns about Flynn but I could care less about his draft status. Holding Flynn's draft status against him to me is like not dating a girl because she was chubby in High School.

Mahons21 · 02-14-2012, 02:46 PM

Ya I can't see Minny giving up on Ponder this early, but when M n M brought it up I figured I'd ask.

Sanchez could be a solid option, bring him into compete, draft a mid rd guy like Cousins/Weeden.

ES really is going to shit a brick come draft day, I think..

SmootSmack · 02-14-2012, 02:50 PM

Let me ask the M & M guys what that was all about, if anything

Mahons21 · 02-14-2012, 02:51 PM

If I had to guess it's just some Minny fan caught up in the RG3 hype sending in a tweet or e-mail.

SmootSmack · 02-14-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahons21

If I had to guess it's just some Minny fan caught up in the RG3 hype sending in a tweet or e-mail.

Didn't sound like anything. Just hypothetical discussion of should the Vikings make a move for the QB. And in response to a fan asking about getting Luck or RG3, Golic says Ponder was a surprise pick but he think the Vikings will stick with him

Mahons21 · 02-14-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Didn't sound like anything. Just hypothetical discussion of should the Vikings make a move for the QB. And in response to a fan asking about getting Luck or RG3, Golic says Ponder was a surprise pick but he think the Vikings will stick with him

Appreciate it.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-14-2012, 02:56 PM

If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.

Lotus · 02-14-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.

Me too.

Ruhskins · 02-14-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If we bring in Sanchez I will cry.

Especially if we have to give up picks...it'd be McNabb Part II.

02-14-2012, 01:50 PM	#1
redskin29633 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 152	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign Redskins likely to pass on Flynn at QB \| Washington Examiner Many of you are probably thinking, "Why is this guy bringing up Flynn again? We have moved on from him!" Its not that I think Flynn is necessarily the answer to our QB problem, but I do think he is a viable option. He could be the answer, even the best option available. The *Examiner* article seems to suggest that the Redskins have not moved off their opinion of Flynn since his exit from college. The story fruther observes that many NFL scouts now have a very different opinion of Flynn, but oh no, not the Redskins! The Redskins are not changing their dogmatic view of Flynn as an option for our QB starved team and fans. This article just rubs me wrong. Of all the names mentioned as possible successors to Grossman, Flynn seems like one of the best and most logical options to me. But since the Redskins are unwilling to change their early/initial view of him, they will not likely consider him as a QB solution in 2012. Leadership changes, but it seems that the Redskins get stuck with old ideas and just cant seem to move off them. Just like Manning, there is a lot of new info on Peyton, his injury, his prospects for rehab and recovery, and the effects of all that on his passing skills. But somehow, I get the impression that the Redskins still view him as a Super Bowl, franchise caliber QB. What about the new information? Shouldn't that matter to us? What about the empirical evidence that we have on Flynn? Surely that matters! Evidently not, the Redskins seem to be still stuck in the "once established, never change mode" when it comes to player evaluation. Sorry for the rant, but the Redskins need to wake up, catch up with current thinking, stop being so D#&N dogmatic in their views of facts, and the impact those facts have on player performance. Skills erode; players get worse; some players get better with experience and instruction. WAKE UP!

02-14-2012, 09:03 PM	#7
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign I agree that there's legitimate concerns about Flynn but I could care less about his draft status. Holding Flynn's draft status against him to me is like not dating a girl because she was chubby in High School. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

02-14-2012, 02:46 PM	#8
Mahons21 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 56	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign Ya I can't see Minny giving up on Ponder this early, but when M n M brought it up I figured I'd ask. Sanchez could be a solid option, bring him into compete, draft a mid rd guy like Cousins/Weeden. ES really is going to shit a brick come draft day, I think.. Last edited by Mahons21; 02-14-2012 at 02:48 PM.

02-14-2012, 02:50 PM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign Let me ask the M & M guys what that was all about, if anything __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-14-2012, 02:51 PM	#10
Mahons21 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 56	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign If I had to guess it's just some Minny fan caught up in the RG3 hype sending in a tweet or e-mail.

02-14-2012, 02:56 PM	#13
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 36 Posts: 14,185	Re: QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign If we bring in Sanchez I will cry. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

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