Looks like we traded up!

[That Guy]

we didn't have a championship QB before and it didn't stop us. I have no idea what it is you're even trying to argue... use the draft and get a superstar qb? you really think that even merits an arguement?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

eagle offense is a joke but we seem to always have problems with mcnabb. and usually they win not us.

We beat em twice last year, once with McNabb. Before that, we were never any good.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Except this year, Pryce is gone on the Dline, and Gerrard Warren got paid, so hes not a threat. Who's driving that defense, Courtney Brown?

their D is based on the back 7, their DL hasn't been amazing for a while.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

ok gtripp how many times have we beaten the eagle since mcnabb been there not many. i think you can honestly say they have own us since he been there.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

there dline better over all than ours if you honest.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

that guy my arguement is not just a qb we dont use the draft for anything , we dont respect the draft that why we will not win a super bowl, you cant but a super bowl championship it was tried in 2001 and it failed horribly o r did you forget

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

joe thiesman was a great quarterback by the way, williams had one great quarter and at least rip was young enough too play a while.

[That Guy]

that doesn't change the fact that we won with non superstar qbs.

[Phinehas]

...stanly richard, james washington, john gesek, stubblefield, wilkerson,dion sanders,mark carrier,bruce smith,jeff george, etc etc etc...

Ah, I can see now that we are talking about two different teams. You are obviously still stuck in the past with the Redskins of yesteryear, while I'm talking about the current team under Joe Gibbs. Under Gibbs, we have had (count 'em) a grand total of ONE free agent that didn't really pan out for us. And you seem to be conveniently forgetting all the guys we drafted over the past 14 years that weren't so hot either. I never said I liked where we'd been the last 14 year. I said I like where we are going. And I would think that anyone who is capable of peeling their pessimistic eyes away from the past for a couple of seconds would have to admit that the future of the Redskins looks bright indeed.

As Gibbs explained so well in today's press conference, the draft is always a bit of a crap shoot. You are gambling because you never really know whether a player can make the transition to the NFL. With the free agency market, however, you can see film of the guy you are interested in as he is playing against the same guys he'll play against on your team. Over the past three years, the Redskins have done an incredible job of identifying the needs of our team and going out and getting the guys that we need to fill those positions.

Hey, I'm not going to knock great organizations like the Steelers or Patriots (or even the Iggles...well, maybe I'll knock them), but I'll be honest with you--I like our chances just as well as any of them this year. We made the right moves and are putting together the right team.

As for Brunell's stats after the first five games, who the heck was he supposed to be throwing the ball to? Teams doubled and tripled Moss while keeping an eye on Cooley and keying the rest of their defence against the run. Without a legitimate threat as a second wide receiver, it says a ton about our offense that we did as well as we did.

Seriously, though, I'm not surprised that we've got a solid crop of naysayers again this year. Happens every year. Oh well.

--Phin

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

not a naysayer just not drinking the cool aid, the could hard facts are i hate to say this being a die hard fan we will not win a championship this way you have to do both, some free agents here and there but build most of your team year in and year out with the draft. you right about not all of picks have been good maybe that has something to do with leadership or management of the my beloved redskins, cerrato has to go look at the crap draft last year two fullback when this team doesnt use a fullback. that why san franciso ran him out of town, but since he can play racetball with synder he fantastic, may synder and cerrato since he has a extentsion should spend top dollor on scouting collage player instead of fa who mostly want to get paid and get fat on our bonus money

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

the reason people say it every year is because it true damn look at the redskin since 2000, i dont want to go back to much in ancient history what has this team done to say he were a super bowl contender?? we always win free agency. i would like to win championships instead what about you.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

you ready think our chances are as good as the steelers or pats, come on lets get real. i hope your right i really do, since maybe i'm older than you and winning one playoff game is good for you, i dont get exicted anymore about signing everyones players, i'll wait until the season pans out, then usually were disappointed, and here comes fa again will spend and spend and spend maybe get to 8-8. and have not draft picks whick are get this cheaper usually than high price fa. who usally just want to get paid just like portis said when he came here.everyone want to come here and get paid didnt say anything about winning

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

listen i think we both want the same thing and that a championship but it not working their way no matter what gibbs does. you have to respect the draft and we dont that my problem

[That Guy]

please stop the ranting. its annoying :P

you like draft picks, the skins don't. we understand your position, thank you.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

well i hope you enjoy never winning anything that guy being 23 i can why you exicted by 2 playoffs in 14 year,