Lavar will not play in pre-season opener

[12thMan]

Someone brought this up back then, albeit very briefly. You could draw some comparisons between him Bonds. They both were on crutches around the same time with knee issues and both were playing the victim in the media around the same time. That's it. Whether he was on the juice or not is purely wild speculation.

I think the fact the NFL has a pretty tough testing program in place would make it more difficult than say ten years ago to get by on roids.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

It's an interesting thought to say the least.

[Darrell_Green_28]

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LAVAR "WON'T BE 100 PERCENT" THIS YEAR

Amid reports that Giants linebacker LaVar Arrington's knee is still giving him trouble, there's a growing belief in league circles that Arrington "won't be 100 percent" in 2006.

And the words "degenerative knee condition" are now being mentioned in connection with Arrington, suggesting that he might never be much better than he is right now.

Arrington's knee, we've heard, raised flags in other cities in the offseason when he was looking for a new team. Eventually, he signed a contract that, while impressive on paper, requires him to be able to perform well in order to unlock the truly big money.

Subtracting the $4 million or so in earned but unpaid bonus money he waived with the Redskins in order to hit the free agent market early, Arrington doesn't stand to cash in with the Giants if he can't play at a high level.

For the Giants, the contract structure limited their risk, but they still took a chance on Arrington and, by all appearances, they lost.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet

LAVAR "WON'T BE 100 PERCENT" THIS YEAR

Amid reports that Giants linebacker LaVar Arrington's knee is still giving him trouble, there's a growing belief in league circles that Arrington "won't be 100 percent" in 2006.

And the words "degenerative knee condition" are now being mentioned in connection with Arrington, suggesting that he might never be much better than he is right now.

Arrington's knee, we've heard, raised flags in other cities in the offseason when he was looking for a new team. Eventually, he signed a contract that, while impressive on paper, requires him to be able to perform well in order to unlock the truly big money.

Subtracting the $4 million or so in earned but unpaid bonus money he waived with the Redskins in order to hit the free agent market early, Arrington doesn't stand to cash in with the Giants if he can't play at a high level.

For the Giants, the contract structure limited their risk, but they still took a chance on Arrington and, by all appearances, they lost.

Good scoop. And let me say for the record, I take no pleasure in the fact that LA is having knee issues. I think he's a helluva athlete and I would indeed like to see him return to form. But wow, who would have thought the Redskins actually knew what they were doing by letting him go

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet

LAVAR "WON'T BE 100 PERCENT" THIS YEAR

Amid reports that Giants linebacker LaVar Arrington's knee is still giving him trouble, there's a growing belief in league circles that Arrington "won't be 100 percent" in 2006.

And the words "degenerative knee condition" are now being mentioned in connection with Arrington, suggesting that he might never be much better than he is right now.

Arrington's knee, we've heard, raised flags in other cities in the offseason when he was looking for a new team. Eventually, he signed a contract that, while impressive on paper, requires him to be able to perform well in order to unlock the truly big money.

Subtracting the $4 million or so in earned but unpaid bonus money he waived with the Redskins in order to hit the free agent market early, Arrington doesn't stand to cash in with the Giants if he can't play at a high level.

For the Giants, the contract structure limited their risk, but they still took a chance on Arrington and, by all appearances, they lost.

If this is from reliable sources, then it does sound like his knee troubles are starting all over again. But other than the last few posts, it seems everybody here is willing to say that he's through just because he's gonna miss the 1st preseason game. I'm not ready to say that he's not going to be a factor this year just because he misses one preseason game. It was only 7 months ago that he was playing well for us. If this problem persists late into preseason that's a different story.

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

If this is from reliable sources, then it does sound like his knee troubles are starting all over again. But other than the last few posts, it seems everybody here is willing to say that he's through just because he's gonna miss the 1st preseason game. I'm not ready to say that he's not going to be a factor this year just because he misses one preseason game. It was only 7 months ago that he was playing well for us. If this problem persists late into preseason that's a different story.

Though Most people don't use this as a reliable source. What they usually report is pretty much on.. some things yes are unbelievable but i have seen things on there before they hit the news, espn, nfl.com etc..., he is already not playing in the preseason game this week not sure how long he will sit out. this is from the giants website Michael Eisen - Story - 8.10 Training Camp Report for Thursday, August 10 - Giants.com#
could be longer, and profootball.com could be correct. with L. A. you never know but we will see. and if it is true will the reporters, etc.. will they say the skins really did not lose all that much when arrington left..

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I thought "the clear" was hard to test for? I don't know for sure obviously but I was making an observation. Anyway we are going to have a great year and LA will miss out on getting his vengence on the Washington Redskin Franchise at Fed-Ex that he is hoping for.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I don't want to see him return to any form. I don't want him helping any other team but ours, and that's by sucking ass.

I'm not going to wish him injury, but I'm definitely going to wish he is just a flat-out bad player. Nothing personal.

[724Skinsfan]

Okay, given the fact he may not play at 100% this season, now how do the Giants look when stacked up versus the East division? Not that he was solely the man that hyped up their rankings but he was mentioned as a reason.

I think LA, the LB, is a LC but maybe that's because I have a LD.

[RiggoRules]

I get no pleasure from LA being hurt. However, it is hard not to enjoy seeing all those Giants fans (who were nearly unanimous in their belief that LA was the missing piece) have to STFU.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

I get no pleasure from LA being hurt. However, it is hard not to enjoy seeing all those Giants fans (who were nearly unanimous in their belief that LA was the missing piece) have to STFU.

I agree. I like the Arrington. Just not the team he went too.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Okay, given the fact he may not play at 100% this season, now how do the Giants look when stacked up versus the East division? Not that he was solely the man that hyped up their rankings but he was mentioned as a reason.

I think LA, the LB, is a LC but maybe that's because I have a LD.

The Giants D is relying on a few vets who may not hold up well. On espn.com there's an insider article about concnerns over Sam Madison's work in camp. Will Demps will make an impact for them & Pierce gives them a solid MLB, but if you can block the ends we should be able to put some points on the board. Their O worries me more than their d.

[Red Robert]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I think LA, the LB, is a LC but maybe that's because I have a LD.

I dont know if I really want to know what LD means but I will ask.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Red Robert

I dont know if I really want to know what LD means but I will ask.

HAHA! learning disability. My wife's a teacher but she also might agree with AMD's guess! I'm tired...so very tired.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

I'd be willing to bet that if even if he does play the season he'll be on IR by the time the g-strings come to FedEx in December.