The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall

MonkFan4Life · 11-27-2006, 10:39 AM

Well It's About Time To Break Out The Timeshare Baby !!!!!!

JoeRedskin · 11-27-2006, 10:43 AM

Was just about to post with the exact same headline.

Holy Crap!!!

Monk's in baby! The tide has turned!!! It's about f***ing time!

GhettoDogAllStars · 11-27-2006, 11:04 AM

This is great news and all, but it just makes PK an even bigger douche (if such a thing were possible). So, all of a sudden PK is going to be objective when he votes? F you PK -- you don't deserve to vote.

Pocket$ $traight · 11-27-2006, 11:05 AM

It sounds like Len Shapiro did some heavy lifting on this. He deserves a lot of credit.

Schneed10 · 11-27-2006, 11:22 AM

My bad on the dupe thread. I got so excited when I read it I nearly messed my pants. I think it's a real good sign - I think Dr. Z will likely follow suit. This could be Monk's year.

irish · 11-27-2006, 11:37 AM

My only problem with the article is that he compares Monk to Yaz. Yaz was not a borderline HoFer, Monk is.

Jamaican'Skin · 11-27-2006, 12:31 PM

Well I'll be....... Its a miracle

wilsowilso · 11-27-2006, 12:37 PM

Very good news! Don't like King very much, but he gets some credit for changing his mind even though he is also bringing attention to himself at the same time. I think King has a good amount of influence among the voters who haven't supported Monk in the past and hopefully he goes in this year.

JoeRedskin · 11-27-2006, 12:48 PM

Just to supplement, Look at this line from PK's article:

As I made my rounds of training camps this year, I asked veteran coaches about Monk and the one word that kept coming up was 'unselfish.' ''

Again, this is one of the reasons that Dr. Z's and PK's opinions get more credibility and carry more weight. As national correspondents, they can speak to more people on a specific topic then the locals can. Do you think the Minnesota reporter spent time this year going around to various training camps to talk to "veteran coaches" about Monk? I don't think so. No, he (or she) is going to rely on PK, Z and other nationals to do that and then let them debate it. Because of the way PK approached this, the locals are going to go his way. Also, by publishing his position, PK now doesn't have to be THE advocate for Monk in the room, he has already done so in a much more public forum.

Let's see what Z's response to this is later in the week. I am betting he has to say something on the issue (Hey Redskin's Nation - flood him with tons of polite e-mails simply asking him what he thought of PK's article and whether a) he has polled coaches, fans or players and b) PK's opinion and research might cause him to reevaluate his own position).

My bet is that he would like to ignore PK's bit but won't be able to and that he will, once again, pout about Monk's unsuitability. He may go as far as saying that everyone is entitled to their opinion but that, based on his recollections, he is sticking with his original position. By doing so, he gets to remain anti-monk (and true to his "principles") but gets out of the way for those who want to vote for Monk.

Sorry for these long (probably pointless) soliliques on the matter, but I am just so f***ing psyched right now.

celts32 · 11-27-2006, 12:56 PM

What a crock...the HOF voting process is such a sham. How can King claim to have not known what Art Monk meant to the Redskins in the 80's? Was he in a coma or just to far up the Giants collective arse to recognize the merits of a rival player. He is basically saying that he shuned Monk all these years because he was uninformed...great to know.

I am glad Monk may finally get in but that whole Hall of Fame is a f-ing circus...

EEich · 11-27-2006, 01:51 PM

I actually teared up reading King's article.

That Guy · 11-27-2006, 03:52 PM

if carson can get in, monk definitely deserves to be in. good for him, it's about time.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 11-27-2006, 08:59 PM

Well god da-m it about Fing time. The redskin players never get the respect that all the other teams do for the HOF.

skinsguy · 11-27-2006, 09:05 PM

Wow! That almost gave me the same feeling as to when I had read the first article about Joe Gibbs coming back to the Redskins to coach! I'm with you Matty, might have to make a road trip to Canton!

mooby · 11-27-2006, 10:59 PM

I'm shocked. Hell must've frozen over. But still, I'm glad Peter King had a change of heart. It must be a tough thing to do to admit your wrong.

11-27-2006, 10:39 AM	#1
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 1,851	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Well It's About Time To Break Out The Timeshare Baby !!!!!! __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

11-27-2006, 10:43 AM	#2
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Was just about to post with the exact same headline. Holy Crap!!! Monk's in baby! The tide has turned!!! It's about f***ing time! __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

11-27-2006, 11:04 AM	#3
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 43 Posts: 2,762	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall This is great news and all, but it just makes PK an even bigger douche (if such a thing were possible). So, all of a sudden PK is going to be objective when he votes? F you PK -- you don't deserve to vote. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

11-27-2006, 11:05 AM	#4
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall It sounds like Len Shapiro did some heavy lifting on this. He deserves a lot of credit.

11-27-2006, 11:22 AM	#5
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall My bad on the dupe thread. I got so excited when I read it I nearly messed my pants. I think it's a real good sign - I think Dr. Z will likely follow suit. This could be Monk's year. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

11-27-2006, 11:37 AM	#6
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall My only problem with the article is that he compares Monk to Yaz. Yaz was not a borderline HoFer, Monk is.

11-27-2006, 12:31 PM	#7
Jamaican'Skin The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 38 Posts: 2,418	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Well I'll be....... Its a miracle

11-27-2006, 12:37 PM	#8
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Very good news! Don't like King very much, but he gets some credit for changing his mind even though he is also bringing attention to himself at the same time. I think King has a good amount of influence among the voters who haven't supported Monk in the past and hopefully he goes in this year.

11-27-2006, 12:48 PM	#9
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Just to supplement, Look at this line from PK's article: As I made my rounds of training camps this year, I asked veteran coaches about Monk and the one word that kept coming up was 'unselfish.' '' Again, this is one of the reasons that Dr. Z's and PK's opinions get more credibility and carry more weight. As national correspondents, they can speak to more people on a specific topic then the locals can. Do you think the Minnesota reporter spent time this year going around to various training camps to talk to "veteran coaches" about Monk? I don't think so. No, he (or she) is going to rely on PK, Z and other nationals to do that and then let them debate it. Because of the way PK approached this, the locals are going to go his way. Also, by publishing his position, PK now doesn't have to be THE advocate for Monk in the room, he has already done so in a much more public forum. Let's see what Z's response to this is later in the week. I am betting he has to say something on the issue (Hey Redskin's Nation - flood him with tons of polite e-mails simply asking him what he thought of PK's article and whether a) he has polled coaches, fans or players and b) PK's opinion and research might cause him to reevaluate his own position). My bet is that he would like to ignore PK's bit but won't be able to and that he will, once again, pout about Monk's unsuitability. He may go as far as saying that everyone is entitled to their opinion but that, based on his recollections, he is sticking with his original position. By doing so, he gets to remain anti-monk (and true to his "principles") but gets out of the way for those who want to vote for Monk. Sorry for these long (probably pointless) soliliques on the matter, but I am just so f***ing psyched right now. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

11-27-2006, 12:56 PM	#10
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall What a crock...the HOF voting process is such a sham. How can King claim to have not known what Art Monk meant to the Redskins in the 80's? Was he in a coma or just to far up the Giants collective arse to recognize the merits of a rival player. He is basically saying that he shuned Monk all these years because he was uninformed...great to know. I am glad Monk may finally get in but that whole Hall of Fame is a f-ing circus... __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

11-27-2006, 01:51 PM	#11
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall I actually teared up reading King's article.

11-27-2006, 03:52 PM	#12
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall if carson can get in, monk definitely deserves to be in. good for him, it's about time.

11-27-2006, 08:59 PM	#13
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Well god da-m it about Fing time. The redskin players never get the respect that all the other teams do for the HOF.

11-27-2006, 09:05 PM	#14
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall Wow! That almost gave me the same feeling as to when I had read the first article about Joe Gibbs coming back to the Redskins to coach! I'm with you Matty, might have to make a road trip to Canton! __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-27-2006, 10:59 PM	#15
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: The end of the world must be near: King voting for Monk for the Hall I'm shocked. Hell must've frozen over. But still, I'm glad Peter King had a change of heart. It must be a tough thing to do to admit your wrong.

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