Rex Grossman the whipping boy

[EternalEnigma21]

Rex Grossman is playing horrible, but its not his fault they lost... its lovies....

he know's grossman is crap better than anyone and he put the game in his hands when they were running pretty well...

I called both of those picks before they happened. He was off all night long, and his recievers were making terrific catches...

He had a great beginning to the year, but I'd definately bring someone in as an ins. policy... draft a nice 2nd round QB as a project... see what happens...

[That Guy]

maybe the bears fans don't haven't had a good qb since sid luckman cause they don't have any patience or know how hard it is to find one.

for his experience and pay, grossman did very well (for 600k$). If they're not happy with him, they should be looking back at their FO and themselves (the fans that is) for not pushing harder for drew brees. It's really convenient to b---- about it now. if grossman isn't good enough for them, and they chose not to look at other options, that's their problem.

and griese came in and looked terrible in limited action this year, so without seeing him run that offense well, it's kinda hard to assume he would have been much better.

[70Chip]

I don't see how the Bears can be that unhappy. Grossman had no playoff experience and he got them to the Final game of the tournament. Yeah, he panicked and through a couple up for grabs, but no one thought he was going to take them on his shoulders. If their defense had played as well as they have at points over the last two years (injuries being one factor), then I think Grossman's play might have been just barely enough. And, what other options do they have? Not many.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I don't see how the Bears can be that unhappy. Grossman had no playoff experience and he got them to the Final game of the tournament. Yeah, he panicked and through a couple up for grabs, but no one thought he was going to take them on his shoulders. If their defense had played as well as they have at points over the last two years (injuries being one factor), then I think Grossman's play might have been just barely enough. And, what other options do they have? Not many.

I think I'm repeating myself, but over a period of three quarters of mistake free football (unless you attribute the fumble to Grossman and not Kreutz), the Bears were getting dominated in a losing effort. I think Grossman foolishly took it upon himself at that point to go win the SB, but it's tough to fault him for wanting to do so. We can rag on the two poor plays all we want, but the bottom line is that the Bears weren't going to win that game unless Rex did something about it, and his feeble attempt leads to the same result that a conservative approach would have, but with more bitching from an, in my opinion--underqualified media.

That's the part thats unfair. It's one game; critique the plays, not the player.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

maybe the bears fans don't haven't had a good qb since sid luckman cause they don't have any patience or know how hard it is to find one.

for his experience and pay, grossman did very well (for 600k$). If they're not happy with him, they should be looking back at their FO and themselves (the fans that is) for not pushing harder for drew brees. It's really convenient to b---- about it now. if grossman isn't good enough for them, and they chose not to look at other options, that's their problem.

and griese came in and looked terrible in limited action this year, so without seeing him run that offense well, it's kinda hard to assume he would have been much better.

Great points, although I'm not going to blame the fans for the organization not bringing in Brees.

The only reason Griese was brought in was to be a backup. They really don't want to stunt Grossman's growth, thus they bring in a guy who is pretty clearly inferior.

Had the Bears signed Drew Brees, would they have won the Super Bowl? Maybe so. Maybe they wouldn't even have made it. It's all moot now, because they got close with Grossman and didn't play well enough AS A TEAM to win the SB.

[dmek25]

i think grossman looked that bad that skins fans would rather see brunell at quarterback

[EternalEnigma21]

the picks were his bad decisions and as I said, he was off all night, but lovie should've been pounding the ball only trailing by 2 pts at the start of the 4th (I believe).... The run was there, but they threw in the towel on it and their D was tired as hell....

[hail_2_da_skins]

First of all, I think Rex Grossman sucks. But in his defense, he had a solid season. He exceeded expectations. Most people thought he would have lost his job to Griese but he managed to get the team to the Superbowl and he deserves some credit for that. In the games that he played well, he threw downfield very well. He suffers from some of the common mistakes a lot of young quarterbacks suffer from, inconsistency and poor decision making. He will get better. The Bear fans should be happy that after one full season of play he was able to get the Bears to the Superbowl. With more experience, he may get them over the top. It's not fair to compare Rex Grossman to Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is a seasoned veteran at the top of his craft. Grossman is an aspiring young whipper snapper, trying not to screw up.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

First of all, I think Rex Grossman sucks. But in his defense, he had a solid season. He exceeded expectations. Most people thought he would have lost his job to Griese but he managed to get the team to the Superbowl and he deserves some credit for that. In the games that he played well, he threw downfield very well. He suffers from some of the common mistakes a lot of young quarterbacks suffer from, inconsistency and poor decision making. He will get better. The Bear fans should be happy that after one full season of play he was able to get the Bears to the Superbowl. With more experience, he may get them over the top. It's not fair to compare Rex Grossman to Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is a seasoned veteran at the top of his craft. Grossman is an aspiring young whipper snapper, trying not to screw up.

My thoughts exactly.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

First of all, I think Rex Grossman sucks. But in his defense, he had a solid season. He exceeded expectations. Most people thought he would have lost his job to Griese but he managed to get the team to the Superbowl and he deserves some credit for that. In the games that he played well, he threw downfield very well. He suffers from some of the common mistakes a lot of young quarterbacks suffer from, inconsistency and poor decision making. He will get better. The Bear fans should be happy that after one full season of play he was able to get the Bears to the Superbowl. With more experience, he may get them over the top. It's not fair to compare Rex Grossman to Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is a seasoned veteran at the top of his craft. Grossman is an aspiring young whipper snapper, trying not to screw up.

A solid season for being a "rookie". He has some good games and showed leadership a few times. If he continues to progress and cut down on his rookie mistakes, he could be good for them. If he's like Patrick Ramsey and still plays like a rookie in his 4th-year, he needs to find another line of work.

Coach Smith says he's the man next year and I think it's a good move. Their only player in danger of being lost to FA is Briggs, so he'll have the same team around him next year with a few injured players back. If he cuts down even a few mistakes, they'll be in contention for the SB again next year. If after next year, he's not able to lead the team and be consistant, it's time to move on.

[That Guy]

grossman wasn't whiffing on tackles and making dominic rhodes and joseph addai look like hall of famers.

[GiantsSuck703]

Rex reminds me alot of Drew Brees, remember it was not that long ago every body in san diego was calling for Brees to be benched, oh hes terrible, he sucks, cut him, and then he developed and became a monster. Rex is going to be OK, he lead his team to a superbowl, most people will say the defense got them there, but a great D doesnt guarantee anything, remember our D from 04'? Just give him time, let him develop, I think he will be a star in this league very soon, but for crying out loud, can teams just give a guy a chance to live up to his potential for once.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Rex reminds me alot of Drew Brees, remember it was not that long ago every body in san diego was calling for Brees to be benched, oh hes terrible, he sucks, cut him, and then he developed and became a monster. Rex is going to be OK, he lead his team to a superbowl, most people will say the defense got them there, but a great D doesnt guarantee anything, remember our D from 04'? Just give him time, let him develop, I think he will be a star in this league very soon, but for crying out loud, can teams just give a guy a chance to live up to his potential for once.

Well said. Patience isn't a strong suit for football fans. If you need any proof just look at all the people jumping off the ledge this season (2006) with the Skins. You would never know that we made the playoffs the season before with all the whining that's been going on! You would think we were the Cowboys or something! Fact of the matter is that it was a transition season for us.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Well said. Patience isn't a strong suit for football fans. If you need any proof just look at all the people jumping off the ledge this season (2006) with the Skins. You would never know that we made the playoffs the season before with all the whining that's been going on! You would think we were the Cowboys or something! Fact of the matter is that it was a transition season for us.

I like that term....hope it's what was REALLY going on and not the deep seeded demonically possesed crap Im thinking of...

[skinsguy]

Well geez....the guy is playing in his first full season, leads the Bears to the best record in the league...helps to get them to the Super Bowl...you all know that we'd love to have had our team in the same exact situation. I don't believe Grossman is a very strong QB, but he is young in his career.

Look at John Elway. He lost three Super Bowls in a row by large margins, and there were trade rumors not too long after that...yet he finished his career with 2 super bowl wins. While I felt Grossman was a large reason why the Bears lost the super bowl, I think a lot of the piling on is very much knee-jerk reactions from those who have no patience to understand player development.