World Bowl

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If Brunell sucks it doesn't say much for Mr. career backup Todd Collins. If either of these guys had to play a significant amount this year we're screwed. I think Brunell gets the nod though due to his experience level.

And his skill level gets him the nod as well. I mean who would rather have Brunell or Collins? I rest my case.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

And his skill level gets him the nod as well. I mean who would rather have Brunell or Collins? I rest my case.

Do I get option C?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If Brunell sucks it doesn't say much for Mr. career backup Todd Collins. If either of these guys had to play a significant amount this year we're screwed. I think Brunell gets the nod though due to his experience level.

I guess your right. Collins has no game experience but I sure would like to see Collins get some time this pre season. I mean how do we know this guy can't play? Has anyone actually seen the guy play? He has stuck around the NFL for a while so he must have some talent.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I guess your right. Collins has no game experience but I sure would like to see Collins get some time this pre season. I mean how do we know this guy can't play? Has anyone actually seen the guy play? He has stuck around the NFL for a while so he must have some talent.

This is Collins what, 12th season in the NFL, and he has how many starts? This is guy is a career back up who has only hung around because of his system knowledge and ability to teach players. He is the quintisential "player coach."

Brunell on the other hand is old and broken down, but the guy is a player, is well respected in the locker room, and has shown that if healthy, he is a great #2 QB. Let's not forget that Brunells problems are related to health. When his legs get balky, he is about as useful a third nipple, but when healthy, he can play at a high level as he has proven in fits and starts over the last couple years.

With Bramlet showing legit potential, and Palmer coming in as a draft pick, Collins looks like the odd man out to me. If he's that important in teaching the system, hire him as a QB coach or "offensive consultant," but don't waste a roster spot on him. Quite frankly, if we are down to our #3 QB, it means our season is probably shot and we'd be better off testing out young talent for future value than trying to eek out wins with sub-par talent.

[redskinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I guess your right. Collins has no game experience but I sure would like to see Collins get some time this pre season. I mean how do we know this guy can't play? Has anyone actually seen the guy play? He has stuck around the NFL for a while so he must have some talent.

i'd like to see bramblett,the world bowl mvp get the backup job.he can't help but learn from brunnel and campbell.collins needs to go elsewhere,but he has been content to ride the bench 12 years.he may become complacent running the scout teams,or the away offenses week to week!

[hail_2_da_skins]

I think Bramlet has the inside track on the #3 quarterback spot. There is no substitute for actual game experience. Palmer is a great prospect as well. It will be hard to stash him away on the practice squad. I have a feeling another team will snatch him up if he is placed on the practice squad.

[hail_2_da_skins]

I don't like Brunnel or Collins. If it was up to me I would cut both and keep Campbell, Bramlet and Palmer. That's a gamble, not having an experienced backup, but Brunnel and Collins are washed up. Go with the youth movement.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

I don't like Brunnel or Collins. If it was up to me I would cut both and keep Campbell, Bramlet and Palmer. That's a gamble, not having an experienced backup, but Brunnel and Collins are washed up. Go with the youth movement.

That's not a gamble, that's called season suicide if Campbell goes down.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's not a gamble, that's called season suicide if Campbell goes down.

Yes and no, Campbell will determain how far we go this season, if he goes down I would rather see one of the youngsters step in and get experience, we are not going anywhere but backwards with Brunell in there.

I am not sold on Bramlett, saw him a couple of times and he did ok but nothing to make me think he can get it done on the NFL level, but we will see, either way I would rather see any combination of the 3 at the #2, and #3 backup position, the season is over if Campbell goes down, Brunell is a step backwards and has kept us down since his arrival.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by offiss

Yes and no, Campbell will determain how far we go this season, if he goes down I would rather see one of the youngsters step in and get experience, we are not going anywhere but backwards with Brunell in there.

I am not sold on Bramlett, saw him a couple of times and he did ok but nothing to make me think he can get it done on the NFL level, but we will see, either way I would rather see any combination of the 3 at the #2, and #3 backup position, the season is over if Campbell goes down, Brunell is a step backwards and has kept us down since his arrival.

I for one am not a big fan of Brunell or 5 to 7 yard passes. However, I would take a seasoned vet that rarely throws intercecptions as opposed to a hot dog youngster trying to prove himself; if the Defense is good enough to win us some games. If the Defense cannot; then put another youngster in there and see what he can do. At that point there would be nothing to lose.

[SmootSmack]

Thank goodness no one here has wasted our time with this...yet

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[JoeRedskin]

I thought it was pretty well decided that Brunnell and Collins are competing for the back-up spot. Whoever doesn't make it as number 2, doesn't make the team. The third spot is reserved for the developmental guy. So essentially, it's Collins v. Brunnell and a three way competition (Hollenbach, Palmer and Bramlett) for the number three spot.

As for the back up slot: If I were Collins, I'd start making some calls. No way he beats out Brunnell. Brunnell is a JG favorite, popular in the locker room and just restructured his k so to help out the Skins. Unless he can no longer get the ball past the line of scrimmage, MB is here one more year.

As for the third spot, I think Bramlett has some advantages over Hollenbach and Palmer. First, he's got game experience - Yes, it's NFLE but Palmer and Hollenbach got nothing and aint getting many reps. He's also got one more year of familiarity with Saunders offense. Because of this and if the 3rd QB is forced to play at any point this year, I think Bramlett gives us the best chance for winning. Not saying he is going to light anything up, just that, based on his experience, he may be less likely to commit some of the dumb mistakes a rookie might make.

Also, with Bramlett on the roster, both Hollenbach and Palmer can be placed on the practice squad. Even if Bramlett were eligible to be on the practice squad, my guess is that, at the first qb injury, he would be signed as someone else's third QB.

I think it shakes out this way - JC, Brunell and Bramlett on the roster. Palmer and/or Hollenbach on the practice sqad. Then next year, Brunnell cut, Bramlett is the number two and Palmer, Hollenbach or next year's 7th round or OFA QB as the third.

Lots of good QB's have come out of NFLE in the past 10 years. My guess is that Bramlett is a more than servicable back-up for the NFL. Who knows? Maybe he'll develop and get enough preseason playing time to create enough interest from other teams that we can Matt Shaub him in a year or two.

[dmek25]

where the heck is offiss?