ARE vs. Lloyd for the number 2 WR spot

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

The only problem I have with this comparison is that Clark actually had the goods to back up the attitude. Lloyd, not so much.

Without a doubt Gary Clark's receiving ability has shown to be superior to Lloyd's but there's not a lot of dissimiliarity in attitude. Something that easy to overlook when your catching 75+ 1200+ yards and 8+ TDs every year. Don't get me wrong. I love Gary Clark. He's basically a local legend down in these parts (SW VA).

[dmek25]

i think I'm in the minority when it comes to Lloyd, too. nothing wrong with alittle swagger. i don't remember Lloyd dropping any balls last season. it was just Brunell wouldn't throw to him. should be different this year

[MTK]

Based on how last year ended ARE should be listed ahead of Lloyd. Lloyd has a lot to prove right now.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Based on how last year ended ARE should be listed ahead of Lloyd. Lloyd has a lot to prove right now.

ARE is a nice player but he is not a solid NFL #2 WR. If our offense is going to improve and go to the next level we are going to need Lloyd to play like he is capable of playing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

ARE is a nice player but he is not a solid NFL #2 WR. If our offense is going to improve and go to the next level we are going to need Lloyd to play like he is capable of playing.

Based on last year Lloyd isn't even a good #3.

Like I said, he has a lot to prove right now.

[chrisl13]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Based on how last year ended ARE should be listed ahead of Lloyd. Lloyd has a lot to prove right now.

You really cant base anything on last year since it was so sad and pityful. Khary Campbell coulda ended the season at #2 WR

[bigSkinsfan61]

i believe this in my heart of hearts. lloyd must and will step up this season and be a threat . his career depend on it really if u think about it. who else is going to take a chance on a overpaid , underachieving head case wide out after 2 teams get the same results. he has to see this if only for his own good....

[hagams]

I really don't think that either is a strong # 2 guy from what we say last year. I hope that at least one of them took last year to heart, and went home and had a long talk in front of a mirror. We need to have a strong guy this year other than Moss.

[skinsfan69]

I was listening to Gibbs presser the other day and the way he talks about BL you would think he was Gary Clark. Gibbs always says he is real talented, he is real graceful catching the ball, has all this ability. I even read that he and Springs trained together in Ariz and Springs was saying the same stuff. I mean Springs said that Lloyd was one of the most talented WR's he had ever been around. Now that's a bold statement.

So why doesn't all this ability transfer to the field?? Yes, you can blame some of it on Brunell, but that only goes so far. Plus he never did shit in SF.

I'm looking for this guy to really take off this year. I'm talking about 60-80 catches and 6-8 TD's. He needs to put up or shut up and go away.

[BigSKINBauer]

Antwaan burned shawn springs yesterday. ARE had to dive down for the catch and might not have caught it. I think the ref might of said no catch but i had a better look at it than even the ref did and it looked good. Maybe out of bounds but ARE caught it. Shawn turned around indicating no catch with his hands. Small tidbit from camp, thats all.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Just heard on Sporstalk 980 from the Redskin report by Jerry Coleman that ARE leads Brandon Llyod for the number 2 WR spot opposite of Moss. Not looking to good for Llyod but it is only training camp - but this has got to be a big letdown to Llyod and his supporters since this is probably Llyod's put up some numbers or be cut year.

If your going to start a thread about a player at least get the facts right. Lloyd is listed as the #3 WR only because that is how they finished the season last year and has nothing to do with their play in camps. I heard this twice over the past 2 days and one of the sources was Gibbs. On the Riggo show yesterday the reporter they had at camp said he did not know if it was just him but Lloyd look much faster than he did last year and he was impressed with hi play. Lets give the guy a break and the opportunity to prove that he can get the job done. Our O and D all looked bad last year and the only player that really stood out was Betts.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If your going to start a thread about a player at least get the facts right. Lloyd is listed as the #3 WR only because that is how they finished the season last year and has nothing to do with their play in camps. I heard this twice over the past 2 days and one of the sources was Gibbs. On the Riggo show yesterday the reporter they had at camp said he did not know if it was just him but Lloyd look much faster than he did last year and he was impressed with hi play. Lets give the guy a break and the opportunity to prove that he can get the job done. Our O and D all looked bad last year and the only player that really stood out was Betts.

See here's the thing though. It's great that Lloyd has more muscle and looks fast and all that crap. But the thing that matters most in Saunders' offense is TIMING. The WR needs to be at a certain spot by a certain time, because the QB is going to throw it there whether the WR is there or not. This requires very precise route-running on the part of the WRs. Speed and size are great, but if Lloyd isn't practicing with Campbell, then how can Campbell trust Lloyd to be where he needs to be? Lloyd failed to connect with Campbell in the offseason at all; meanwhile Moss and ARE got time in with JC.

I question Brandon Lloyd's work ethic and his attention to detail. He's a straight up burner, and just wants to use his speed. So far in his career, he has shown no interest in improving on the nuances of route-running.

I'll be very surprised if he has a good season. I think he's a total bum.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If your going to start a thread about a player at least get the facts right. Lloyd is listed as the #3 WR only because that is how they finished the season last year and has nothing to do with their play in camps. I heard this twice over the past 2 days and one of the sources was Gibbs. On the Riggo show yesterday the reporter they had at camp said he did not know if it was just him but Lloyd look much faster than he did last year and he was impressed with hi play. Lets give the guy a break and the opportunity to prove that he can get the job done. Our O and D all looked bad last year and the only player that really stood out was Betts.

Actually Jerry Coleman stated what you said about ARE being the #2 because that is how the season ended. Than Andy Pollin responded and asked "has Brandon Llyod done anything in OTA's or training camp to displace ARE?" and Coleman flat out said he has not done anything in camp to displace ARE. I guess I should have included that in my intial posting but I had my facts straight - just passing along what Coleman is reporting because he is probably a guy who has a pretty good feel for the situation because Coleman spends every day at the Park since he is a Redskins beat reporter for Sportstalk 980.

[MTK]

LLoyd's numbers were pathetic last year (all-time record low for a #2 WR) and went far beyond the collective struggles of the offense. We still had guys that produced offensively, and along with his lack of production his attitude problems were probably a bigger concern.

[Ferrari]

In my outlook, I would like to see our #3 receiver have solid stats as well. So if Lloyd is a #3 I just want to see him put up Brandon Stokley numbers.