Joe Gibbs coaching tree?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by billmountjoy

No! I have known Dan Henning & Don Breaux personally since the early 1960's (I coached High School & College ball, & was welcomed to Redskins Training Camps by them, going back to 1981). Through THEM - I met Joe Gibbs, Joe Bugel, Rennie Simmons, Jack Burns, Jim Hanifan (at Redskins Park). I ran their offense 100% I still stay in touch with Breaux & Hanifan (via phone).

What I posted on the staff was from MY memory.

Welcome! Looking forward to more of your insight in the future.

[billmountjoy]

Thank you very much!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by billmountjoy

No! I have known Dan Henning & Don Breaux personally since the early 1960's (I coached High School & College ball, & was welcomed to Redskins Training Camps by them, going back to 1981). Through THEM - I met Joe Gibbs, Joe Bugel, Rennie Simmons, Jack Burns, Jim Hanifan, etc. (at Redskins Park). I ran their offense 100%. I still stay in touch with Breaux & Hanifan (via phone).

What I posted on the staff was from MY memory.

no I meant found this discussion which hadn't really been active lately.. I figured that you had found the board and this discussion from a somewhat related search

you certainly seem to know your stuff, wasn't trying to imply that you were just copy/pasting stuff

[billmountjoy]

I've been a member of "Warpath" before - just had not been on the site in awhile.

[davy]

I've always thought that Gibbs reputation as a ball control specialist was hugely overstated.

In his first stint the running game finished in the top 5 in the league on just 3 occasions whereas the passing game made the top 5 on 5 occasions.

My view is that he went with what worked, whatever that was.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by davy

I've always thought that Gibbs reputation as a ball control specialist was hugely overstated.

In his first stint the running game finished in the top 5 in the league on just 3 occasions whereas the passing game made the top 5 on 5 occasions.

My view is that he went with what worked, whatever that was.

You know what cracked me up was them mentioning a great 3.5 YPC for us a SB year in that article. If you look at our stats last year we were at 3.9 YPC and that was good enough for 29th in the league. The lowest? 3.3 YPC as a team. My how things have changed.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by davy

I've always thought that Gibbs reputation as a ball control specialist was hugely overstated.

In his first stint the running game finished in the top 5 in the league on just 3 occasions whereas the passing game made the top 5 on 5 occasions.

My view is that he went with what worked, whatever that was.

Well you don't necessarily need to finish top 5 in the running game as total yards or even YPC is only part of ball control. The chains kept moving and the clock kept ticking.. that's ball control.

[skinsfan69]

I think the whole coaching tree thing is really over rated. Gibbs' guys really didn't have good head coaching careers but a lot of them were damn good coaches. I mean Buges went to Arizona and Oakland. Not the best places in the NFL to win. So much of it depends on the owner and the people who hire you.

[tryfuhl]

mmmm playbooks

looks like he shares a lot with online communities

Bill Mountjoy's Pearls of Wisdom

great resource there

impressive resume as well

News Story

definitely good to see you here Mr. Mountjoy

[davy]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

mmmm playbooks

looks like he shares a lot with online communities

Bill Mountjoy's Pearls of Wisdom

great resource there

impressive resume as well

News Story

definitely good to see you here Mr. Mountjoy

Now, if I could understand just one tenth of it I would be a happy man.

[billmountjoy]

Originally Posted by davy

Now, if I could understand just one tenth of it I would be a happy man.

Thank you very much!

[billmountjoy]

Originally Posted by Clutch

I'm a George Allen fan, but also respect and admire Joe Gibbs. One thing that I've noticed is that most of the great head coaches have had assistant coaches who have gone on to become great head coaches in their own right.

In addition to Joe Bugel, who are the other branches of the Joe Gibbs coaching tree? I know that Joe Gibbs himself was the star pupil of Don Coryell's brilliant offensive-minded football school.

To see a Joe Gibbs offense is to see the strains from which it arose. Gibbs offense featured schemes that befuddled defenses with three or four receiving threats, multiple shifts, a single tailback, H-backs (a tight end in the slot or backfield). An attack might come from anywhere. These schemes have at their source Don Coryell with a dash of Bill Peterson (and you have to give a nod to Sid Gillman, that patriarch of NFL offensive thinking). More than Xs and Os, Gibbs inspires uncommon devotion by his team. They are sold on his concepts and program -- the clear hand of Frank Broyles. John Riggins marvels at Gibbs' ability to manage people. More than once, he said that Gibbs "could have probably run General Motors," not to mention a winning N.A.S.C.A.R. team.

Gibbs’ hard work and long hours were extracted from Bill Peterson “who did not have raw talent on his teams, or a flamboyant personality …, but who succeeded nonetheless through sheer hard work.” From John McKay he learned that a certain part of being a good coach is the use of fear to motivate people.

Equally clear is, that to be a great coach, one must seek out and recruit outstanding assistants. Coryell, Breaux, Peterson and Broyles saw something in Gibbs and a number of other assistants who went on to successful NFL careers. Part of their greatness is due to their ability to build a stellar staff as Gibbs is now doing with Gregg Williams, Joe Bugel and recently Al Saunders, the highly regarded Kansas City offensive coordinator – and Don Coryell protégé. Outstanding assistants enabled the Redskins to be effective at half-time adjustments, as Gibbs became known for doing in his 1980s rampage.

Here are just a few of his many assistants at Washington:

1. Don Breaux
2. Dan Henning
3. Renny Simmons
4. Jack Burns
5. Joe Bugel
6. Jim Hanifan
7. Charley Taylor
ETC.

[SFREDSKIN]

Coach Gibbs to me is the best coach of his era, superior than Belichick, better than Walsh. Even Gibbs II was a success, making 2 playoff apperances despite lack of talent and a shitty GM in Vinny.

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Coach Gibbs to me is the best coach of his era, superior than Belichick, better than Walsh. Even Gibbs II was a success, making 2 playoff apperances despite lack of talent and a shitty GM in Vinny.

True dat bruv! I would've loved to see what Gibbs could've done with RGIII as his QB.

[SmootSmack]

Boy this thread just popped back up out of nowhere