Classless Coach Belichick

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is crybaby loser talk.

yeah,.. where's all the winner talk after that beautiful game??


I actually would've sent the house after brady every play after they went for it on forth down up 38-0 going into the fourth quarter. fuck the score I would've beaten the shit out of ayone in their backfield... fines be damned...

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

yeah,.. where's all the winner talk after that beautiful game??


I actually would've sent the house after brady every play after they went for it on forth down up 38-0 going into the fourth quarter. fuck the score I would've beaten the shit out of ayone in their backfield... fines be damned...

I agree. Given a chance to play them again, I would like to think that Gregg Williams would take far more chances with the blitz to try to get a hard shot on Brady.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

yeah,.. where's all the winner talk after that beautiful game??


I actually would've sent the house after brady every play after they went for it on forth down up 38-0 going into the fourth quarter. fuck the score I would've beaten the shit out of ayone in their backfield... fines be damned...

Exactly what I was thinking in my original post. What did we have to lose at that point? A penalty or two? Move the chains for the Pats? So what? Put Brady on his ass and then tell Belichick to put that in his pipe and smoke it.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

yeah,.. where's all the winner talk after that beautiful game??


I actually would've sent the house after brady every play after they went for it on forth down up 38-0 going into the fourth quarter. fuck the score I would've beaten the shit out of ayone in their backfield... fines be damned...

I agree wholeheartedly. I would have brought a full-house blitz on every play, Landry and Taylor coming each time, if they hit big plays to Moss who cares. If you want to be mad at the coaching staff for something be mad at GW for not doing that.

Look, the only way you can beat the Pats, it seems, is to have your offense completely dominate time of possession and get some turnovers. Its going to be tough and we all kind of knew the Skins did not have the offense for the job going into this game. I doubt many of us expected 52-7, but the majority realized it was very much a longshot for the Skins to go into Foxboro and get a win. That being said, I still do not understand why people on here are actually defending the Patriots. I do not understand how you would not be seething with some anger after that display and then after Belichick's comments postgame. On the plus side it does seem like it is mostly newbies who apparently felt like antagonizing someone after the game and logged onto the Warpath, I still do not get it though. Look guys, they are a bunch of lowlifes up there and it is not just the Redskins fans on this site who are saying that. I have directed people numerous times to Gregg Easterbrook's TMQ column from last week because I thought he summed up everything very nicely, and did so long before kickoff Sunday. I will copy the pertinent bits below because I know it is a very long column and you probably don't want to sort through the whole thing.

Excerpt from ESPN Page 2 - TMQ: Good vs. Evil


"On Sunday, the Patriots led the winless Dolphins 42-7 late in the third quarter, yet Tom Brady was still behind center. And he wasn't just handing off the ball to grind the clock, either. Rather, he was back in the shotgun, still throwing to run up the score. Here is a summary of the Patriots' possession with a 42-7 lead late in the third and Brady, Randy Moss and the rest of their offensive starters on the field: Pass, run, pass, run, pass, pass. When backup quarterback Matt Cassel entered the game in the fourth quarter, with the Patriots leading 42-14 -- a margin larger than the greatest fourth-quarter comeback in NFL history (see below) -- did he hand off the ball to grind the clock? Here were Patriots' coaches first three calls: Run, pass, pass. Cassel's second pass was intercepted and returned for a touchdown, and Brady re-entered the game. Did he grind down the clock? Pass, pass, run, run, pass. The final score was 49-28.

The week before, New England led Dallas 42-27 and had second-and-goal on the Cowboys' 6-yard line with 1:43 remaining and Dallas out of timeouts. Three kneel-downs would have ended the game. But Belichick kept calling plays, frantic to run up the score -- including calling a play with 23 seconds remaining from the Dallas 1-yard line, resulting in a touchdown that made the final New England 48, Dallas 27. The Patriots then kicked off, and Dallas got the ball with 13 seconds remaining. Cowboys coach Wade Phillips showed the dignity Belichick lacked and ordered a kneel-down. Beyond defeating division-leading Dallas, New England has beaten six teams with a combined record of 11-27. In New England's six games against nonwinning teams, Belichick kept the starters in long after the outcome was decided, trying to run up the score. This doesn't just demonstrate Belichick has no class (although it certainly demonstrates that). It's worse -- this suggests something vindictive.

Yes, you can find games the Colts have won by a big margin in recent years, and yes, Manning was on the field through the fourth quarter at Jacksonville last night. But in that quarter, the Colts mainly ran to grind the clock: If they had wanted to win by more, they likely could have. As for New England's running up the score, supposedly the Patriots are angry about the Beli-Cheat scandal and are scoring points like crazy to express their anger against the world. Wait a moment: What right do the Patriots have to be angry? They, after all, are the ones who admitted to systematic cheating. Other people didn't impose that situation on them -- they cheated of their own free accord, imposing the tainting of their accomplishments on themselves. The Patriots were not wronged; they wronged others. Yet they're mad about being caught, and they seem to want to take out their bad feelings about themselves by embarrassing second-echelon teams. That bespeaks lack of character. That's Dark Side. That's Evil."

[troy]

belicheck is a a$$hole with no class, and neither does his team. but my question is...is jason cambell the future of this team? i say no. we have have the best recieving core in football...santana moss, randel el. and none of them have scored a touchdown. portis and betts in the backfield. our defence speaks for itself. a good special teams. a hall of fame coach with 3 super bowl titles. i say it's time to sit cambell down. and send al saunders and his 700 page playbook back to kansas city!!! but that is just my opinion.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by troy

belicheck is a a$$hole with no class, and neither does his team. but my question is...is jason cambell the future of this team? i say no. we have have the best recieving core in football...santana moss, randel el. and none of them have scored a touchdown. portis and betts in the backfield. our defence speaks for itself. a good special teams. a hall of fame coach with 3 super bowl titles. i say it's time to sit cambell down. and send al saunders and his 700 page playbook back to kansas city!!! but that is just my opinion.

Lay off the sauce dude, seriously

[Rock Your Face]

Not to get off-topic here, but the best wide receiving corps in the NFL was wearing blue in Foxboro on Sunday.

The thing that really galls me about the Pats running up the score on teams (not just today, but all season) is that they seem to be doing it b/c they are mad that people caught them cheating. As if it is somehow not their fault that they were in fact doing the cheating and the people who were upset about it are the ones at fault. Is there some validity to the "it's pro football, take it like a man" line of reasoning? Yes, I think there is. At the same time, there is such a thing as class, and going for it on 4th down in the second half of a blow out win does not exhibit any of it.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Rock Your Face

Not to get off-topic here, but the best wide receiving corps in the NFL was wearing blue in Foxboro on Sunday.

The thing that really galls me about the Pats running up the score on teams (not just today, but all season) is that they seem to be doing it b/c they are mad that people caught them cheating. As if it is somehow not their fault that they were in fact doing the cheating and the people who were upset about it are the ones at fault. Is there some validity to the "it's pro football, take it like a man" line of reasoning? Yes, I think there is. At the same time, there is such a thing as class, and going for it on 4th down in the second half of a blow out win does not exhibit any of it.

I don't think they are running up the score cause they are pissed or anything, they run it up cause they are executing very well. They are just damn good...possibly one of the best teams ever. It's sad, and I hate to say it, but it's true.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by troy

belicheck is a a$$hole with no class, and neither does his team. but my question is...is jason cambell the future of this team? i say no. we have have the best recieving core in football...santana moss, randel el. and none of them have scored a touchdown. portis and betts in the backfield. our defence speaks for itself. a good special teams. a hall of fame coach with 3 super bowl titles. i say it's time to sit cambell down. and send al saunders and his 700 page playbook back to kansas city!!! but that is just my opinion.

So our future is with the 37 year old Brunell????? Or the soon to be 36 year old Collins?????
I'm with Matty on this one (odd I know)...how much have you had to drink?

[SkinsFan6388]

youre crazy if you think campbell should be benched. this is only his 14th start in the nfl, and he played the best team in the nfl today. i'd like to see anyone do anything positive behind that make shift o line.

[SouperMeister]

Recall our '91 championship team - Gibbs took a knee at the Lions' 2 yard line when we were pounding Detroit 45-0 in the opener. I just hope that Gibbs and/or Jason Campbell have the opportunity to run it up on Belicheat someday, and they remember how NE showed no class in this game.

[SanFranSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Recall our '91 championship team - Gibbs took a knee at the Lions' 2 yard line when we were pounding Detroit 45-0 in the opener. I just hope that Gibbs and/or Jason Campbell have the opportunity to run it up on Belicheat someday, and they remember how NE showed no class in this game.

We all know Gibbs is classier. He's too classy sometimes. They are both HOF coaches despite BB's cheating moves. The tuck rule (non-call) changed history forever. But he was going for the jugular like he has all year. They have not won by less than 17 points all year. They are on pace to break the scoring average (all time) for one year. They also were sending a message to the Colts. I think Bill should have run the ball more, taken Brady out sooner, and definitely kicked the FG, but our defense couldn't stop them. Gibbs needs to be more aggressive with his playcalling and a little less nice sometimes. BB was not classy, but he had the right to spank us today. We need to take the lesson from this game, we CAN do that to the JETS next week. Let's see how our team responds.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by SanFranSkinsFan

We all know Gibbs is classier. He's too classy sometimes. They are both HOF coaches despite BB's cheating moves. The tuck rule (non-call) changed history forever. But he was going for the jugular like he has all year. They have not won by less than 17 points all year. They are on pace to break the scoring average (all time) for one year. They also were sending a message to the Colts. I think Bill should have run the ball more, taken Brady out sooner, and definitely kicked the FG, but our defense couldn't stop them. Gibbs needs to be more aggressive with his playcalling and a little less nice sometimes. BB was not classy, but he had the right to spank us today. We need to take the lesson from this game, we CAN do that to the JETS next week. Let's see how our team responds.

Just simply put Gibbs and the boys back in the 80's and early 90's exemplified class and dignity (and still do), and that is why he's so revered in so many circles from football to racing today. On the other hand you have Mr. Belichick who's the complete opposite and there will always be suspicion about how he won those three Super Bowls and the likely fourth one come February.

[Gmanc711]

I kind of had the opposite reaction most skins fans do about things....right after the game I had no problems with what Bellicheck did, and the points they scored. If we dont want them in the endzone, we keep them out of the endzone.

Now that I'm a few hours removed from it, I still belive for the most part that too be true, but I'm kinda of starting to agree with the people who think they ran it up...and it is kind of bush league.

I dont want to complain about them running it up on us, because I really dont care, we played bad enough for it to be 52-7, thats how it should come, but there really does seem to be the idea that they wanted to make an example out of us, which is kind of stupid. I mean they had us completley and utterly humilated to begin with, was it really nessacary? Probaboly not. Again, if we are that bent about it, we should have kept them out of the endzone, its more the going for it on 4th and 2 that bothers me just a bit. Everything else is fine, because like Dasels Bellicheck quote says, the offense is out there to score... but the 4th down call is just kind of like "enough already"....but I really do hope Indianapolis kicks their asses next week.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I have no problem with anything the Pats did, except the winning part.

Really, most people on here (myself included) have been calling for Gibbs to step on the necks of our opponents, put them away in the second half, etc. If we have the chance to, I would hope Gibbs does just that.

We got beat down bad by a much better team on Sunday...that should show you just how far we have to go. Yeah, we're a decent team in the grand scheme of things in the NFL (NFC at least), but we're nowhere near where we need to be to compete for the crown.