GW Bush booed at Nationals' opener

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yeah, real hilarious.

This is why the political scene is so nasty, there are so many people who are completely immature and asinine when they don't agree with someone 100% of the time.

I don't care if you're a mod or not, grow up.

The position of the President needs to be respected no matter who it is or how much you disagree with him. He is not to be called "Bush", "W", "George Jr." or anything other than "President Bush" or "Mr. President".

The same went with "President Clinton" and with our members of Congress, no matter how much of an idiot they make themselves out to be sometimes. They still earned the position and deserve that respect even if you can't respect them individually.

I doubt he'd want to get a picture with someone acting like a prick himself, but he's always completely courteous to EVERYONE he meets, even if they're being immature, vulgar little idiots. When someone yells something or interrupts his speeches, he doesn't miss a beat and doesn't criticize them. I have never seen anything but class from our President, despite the fact that he's received the most horrible crap thrown his way.

Like his politics or not, he's honest with you and tells you what he believes, whether you agree or not. He doesn't govern by polls like the previous President.

You have to respect that. Of course, I doubt you will based on your prior childish comments.

I don't care if you don't call him "your" President because you can't get past politics, stop letting your heart lead your head and learn some respect.

If one of the Democrats I disagree with on nearly every issue is elected in November, sure I'll be disappointed and will publicly disagree with many of their decisions and views, but they will still get the respect of being referred to by the title they earned through votes and their work.

Hey, if you are so much more superior and can do a better job, you can run for the office. You'll get my respect even if I believe you're wrong and horrible for the job.

Also, I can't stand the idiots who say "OOOOOOO" during the National Anthem and the people who keep their hats on. Don't agree with everything your nation is doing? Neither do I, but grow up and have some respect for the nation that has been earned by the lives of brave men and women for over 200 years and has let you live in more freedom, safety and prosperity than any other nation in the world.

If you don't respect the nation, get out.

I skipped through most of this, but....I totally agree about "OOOOO" during the National Anthem. It's unbelievably stupid and annoying, imo.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I skipped through most of this, but....I totally agree about "OOOOO" during the National Anthem. It's unbelievably stupid and annoying, imo.

Sorry for the length, but it's something I believe in without backing down.

I guess the "OOOOOOOOOO" just stood out to you and made you wonder what I was talking about.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Buster

Also, I can't stand the idiots who say "OOOOOOO" during the National Anthem and the people who keep their hats on.

I hate this too. It is very annoying and disrespectful.

[SmootSmack]

If they really want to make a difference then get out and vote. What does booing really accomplish? I'm willing to bet one out of every three people there has no idea why they are booing other than they "don't like the President"

[724Skinsfan]

It's being able to boo the President and not get guillotined that makes living in this country a wonderful thing. I don't see it as a big deal to show your collective disapproval for the person running the show. Shouting obcene personal insults and death threats are obviously a different matter.

[redsk1]

I don't think any of us are saying you can't boo. It is a free country. I'm saying as an american i think shows disrespect to the position that he....or she holds.

[12thMan]

I'll try to make this the last thing I'll say on this. Good topic, by the way.

I think when you get people in that environment, they feel embolden to do and say things they would never other say or do. Throw a little tapped beer in there and it's on.

Sometimes I do wonder, however, if those same people that boo public figures would have a totally different demeanor if they just bumped into them on the street somewhere. I wonder if they'd say, "hey George Bush is an asshole" or go "hey Mr. President, mind taking a picture with me?"

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'll try to make this the last thing I'll say on this. Good topic, by the way.

I think when you get people in that environment, they feel embolden to do and say things they would never other say or do. Throw a little tapped beer in there and it's on.

Sometimes I do wonder, however, if those same people that boo public figures would have a totally different demeanor if they just bumped into them on the street somewhere. I wonder if they'd say, "hey George Bush is an asshole" or go "hey Mr. President, mind taking a picture with me?"

Probably the latter of the 2 because they don't want to get tazed.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'll try to make this the last thing I'll say on this. Good topic, by the way.

I think when you get people in that environment, they feel embolden to do and say things they would never other say or do. Throw a little tapped beer in there and it's on.

Sometimes I do wonder, however, if those same people that boo public figures would have a totally different demeanor if they just bumped into them on the street somewhere. I wonder if they'd say, "hey George Bush is an asshole" or go "hey Mr. President, mind taking a picture with me?"

Personally, there's no way I'd want to take a picture with that prick. And I wouldn't pretend to be his best friend either. I wouldn't even want to shake the guy's hand to be honest.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally, there's no way I'd want to take a picture with that prick. And I wouldn't pretend to be his best friend either. I wouldn't even want to shake the guy's hand to be honest.

So you are saying that GW is a prick...how so? Do you think he honestly doesn't have our country's best interest at heart?

I think as US Americans (um...Americans) we should have some sort of respect for the President whether Rep or Dem. Booing the president is everyones right but i kind of look at it as a little rude and disrespectful IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally, there's no way I'd want to take a picture with that prick. And I wouldn't pretend to be his best friend either. I wouldn't even want to shake the guy's hand to be honest.

Do you think he's really evil or just incompetent? And which would bother you more ultimately, to have a bad president or to have a mean president? What if you had the opportuntity to shake his hand on September 12, 2001? Was your perception different then?

I personally don't know what booing the President really accomplishes (other than some self satisfaction, I suppose), unless one thinks that by booing your influencing the opinions of others. But what will it matter if they don't go out and vote. And if they vote one way or another based on cheers/boos at a baseball game then what does that say about the people voting?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you think he's really evil or just incompetent? And which would bother you more ultimately, to have a bad president or to have a mean president? What if you had the opportuntity to shake his hand on September 12, 2001? Was your perception different then?

I personally don't know what booing the President really accomplishes (other than some self satisfaction, I suppose), unless one thinks that by booing your influencing the opinions of others. But what will it matter if they don't go out and vote. And if they vote one way or another based on cheers/boos at a baseball game then what does that say about the people voting?

I think he's too dumb to be evil.

I was no more of a fan of his on 9/12/01 than I am now. Him yelling through a bull horn on top of a pile of WTC rubbish really didn't change my opinion of him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think he's too dumb to be evil.

I was no more of a fan of his on 9/12/01 than I am now. Him yelling through a bull horn on top of a pile of WTC rubbish really didn't change my opinion of him.

Understood. I think though that using the word "prick" usually implies mean-spirited or "evil". What would you "prefer" if you had to choose though. A President who with good intentions but no clear plan or one with the wrong ideals but flawless execution? Of course, that maybe more of a hypothetical question that doesn't necessarily need to be answered here.

As to the second part of your post, I respect that. And I'm not trying to pigeonhole you of course. I just think that for a lot of people the cheering in Yankee Stadium 7 years ago and the booing at Nationals Park last week were more a result of the mob mentality of "hey everyone else is doing it, I should too." I'll "boo" when I check the ballot box

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think he's too dumb to be evil.

I was no more of a fan of his on 9/12/01 than I am now. Him yelling through a bull horn on top of a pile of WTC rubbish really didn't change my opinion of him.

I understand your opinion of Bush is negative, but if you are going to condemn him for being an idiot and getting us into Iraq, then you must also condemn the liberals in Congress who supported the war.

I don't think the President should be booed in the environment of throwing out the first pitch at a baseball game. As much as I dislike/disagree with President Clinton, President Carter, I wouldn't boo them in that setting. At the State of the Union address the opposite side of the President never boos, they just remain silent.

[BleedBurgundy]

People don't understand that when you boo the President of the United States of America, you're not just booing GWB, you're booing everything that that office stands for. It's unacceptable but not unexpected from our rapidly degrading society.