Time to extend Jason Campbell?

[skinsnut]

It seems everyone here is against the idea of extending Campbell ....if the FO agrees, then that means only 1 thing....we will be signing a FA or doing a trade...we've got a decent chunck of cap space to use this year.
We still need help on the Dline and OLB

[firstdown]

JC while he has shown flashes of what he could become he has not done anything to receive a new deal.

[MTK]

I glossed over the course of events but let's face it, Saunders was Gibbs' guy and there were even whispers that he could have been out of here even if Gibbs stayed on. As soon as Gibbs stepped down the writing was on the wall for Saunders... Snyder obviously wasn't his biggest fan.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Last year we extended contracts for key players...such as Cooley and Betts.
These moves were highly praised.
I know a few here think Campbell may not be our long term answer because of his winning record....However, I do believe he is solid and will improve.

The best time to buy is when perceived value is low.
The last thing we want to do is wait until after he has a breakout year to double his value.

At worst, he will not improve...which is still better than any QB the Skins have had since Brad Johnson...(excluding Collins' 4 game push and Brunell for a short time)

What do you think?
Should we use our 07 cap space to lock up JC?

Schneed....what is his likely value now and can it work with the cap space we have?

Smoking the J's on that one. I wouldn't extend nothing yet. He has two years left right? I wouldn't make a move till 3/4's into the last year based on his performance. he is just to unproven.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Smoking the J's on that one. I wouldn't extend nothing yet.

Well, the Cowgirls just extended a RB who is likely to share carries...yes he's good but we dont really know how good.
IMO, Campbell is in a similar boat...
I dont think it a ridiculous concept to extend a good QB while his value is depressed....though I see most points about seeing how he'll click in this new offense first.

I'm really starting to think the Skins will eventually try to use their cap money on another Jason since it is probably too soon to extend Campbell.

[Cowell]

Honestly I don't think I have seen enough from JC to call him the long-term solution just yet. He still has a few kinks that need to be worked out, and most importantly he needs to win. I say we wait at least another year before we extend on JC.

[Dirtbag59]

The impression I've gotten from the Redskins community is that theres three main views on Jason.

1. Jason Campbell sucks and ended up being a waste of a 1st round pick, Colt Brenen/Todd Collins is the future
2. Jason Campbell is like, the best Quarterback in the NFL
3. Jason Campbell is still developing but he's going to be good

I'm obviously fall under the third group, and why not? QB's take a while to develop and a 77 QB rating for a QB in his second year as a starter isn't bad at all. Of course I would have loved to see Campbell hit 85, but theres still a chance this year with an improved offense and a great QB coach for JC to take the next step in his development. Personally I think theres a good amount of teams around the league that would like to have JC as their starting QB. He probably won't end up being Peyton Manning, but he seems to be developing at a rate where he will have a nice long career in this league.

[DC52]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The impression I've gotten from the Redskins community is that theres three main views on Jason.

1. Jason Campbell sucks and ended up being a waste of a 1st round pick, Colt Brenen/Todd Collins is the future
2. Jason Campbell is like, the best Quarterback in the NFL
3. Jason Campbell is still developing but he's going to be good

I'm obviously fall under the third group, and why not? QB's take a while to develop and a 77 QB rating for a QB in his second year as a starter isn't bad at all. Of course I would have loved to see Campbell hit 85, but theres still a chance this year with an improved offense and a great QB coach for JC to take the next step in his development. Personally I think theres a good amount of teams around the league that would like to have JC as their starting QB. He probably won't end up being Peyton Manning, but he seems to be developing at a rate where he will have a nice long career in this league.

Right now I would put myself in the 1 catagory above. It looks like Jason Campbell will be a bust just like the other Quarterbacks in his class (Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers). His QB rating, # of wins and game losing interceptions tell the story pretty well. However, we should give him one last shot and see what he can do as the starter for the entire season. Remember Eli Manning look like a bust early in his career but in year four he helped lead his team to the Super Bowl and win it. Jason Campbell is now in his fourth year just like Manning was when he won.

[DiehardSkin88]

To be fair collins has been in saunders offense for what? 7 years or so?

[DiehardSkin88]

not to mention jc's been on the opposite spectrum of that, hes had a different offense to learn 7 years

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by DiehardSkin88

not to mention jc's been on the opposite spectrum of that, hes had a different offense to learn 7 years

I think that storyline is overplayed. The guy can either do it or not. There shouldn't be a qualifier excuse if he doesn't pan out. Either the guy can adapt to his surroundings or not.

Any professional quarterback should have certain intangibles that he can bring to any offense. He's getting paid a professional salary, he should be able to adapt without excuses.

I've never heard Campbell complain about it himself and I don't like idea of people making exuses on his behalf.

[4mrusmc]

I'm more inclined to say no. As much as I hope that Jason is the answer at qb, he has yet to instill that confidence at the position. This is his 4th year to show massive improvement from years past. Barring any injury he should be given every opportuntiy to do well. But, it depends on him, he killed us at the end of games with untimely ints., and that does nothing to prove to your teamates that you can come from behind and win games. He also needs to manage games better, and hopefully with a new coaching philosyphy that can be done. This season will be a litmus test for him and others.

[SmootSmack]

Jason Campbell certainly needs to continue to improve. Those late game interceptions he threw against Dallas and Tampa need to turn into touchdowns. Will he make mistakes again? Sure, every QB does. But they need to be few and far between.

Who knows if we would have made the playoffs had Campbell been the QB? Collins did a great job leading the team down the stretch. But then again, everyone stepped it up down the stretch.

I'm sure confidence in the QB played a part (why shouldn't it, Collins probably knows the Saunders offense better than Saunders himself), but so did inspired post-tragedy play, healthy players, players getting more accustomed to playing the system and playing with each other. See: Reche Caldwell getting key catches as he got more familiar with the offense and got some playing time; Fabini and Heyer getting comfortable playing together on the right side (and Wade being benched!). And not to mention that Joe Gibbs is one of the best December coaches ever, and almost always sets his teams up to finish strong.

[prinzeofmoval]

Its only clear we don't have a great Qb. I liked Jason coming out of the draft but he has yet to show me something. We haven't had a quarterback since well like 15 years. lets go down the list of flunkies..Campbell can't close the door on a game if his hands were glued to it. Mark brunell was scared to throw it further then 6 yards and inside the hash marks. Patrick Ramsey what were we thinking? Trent Green was one of the ones who got away and we didn't really groom correctly he was the one who got away. Jeff George was passed his time. Oh yeah didn't an another idiot qb hurt his neck hitting a concrete wall? I rest my case. The times we have won is when we played some smashmouthed defense and run the ball down their throats. I don't see no big reason to sign this kid until he proves himself.

[MTK]

Anyone wanna take a guess as to who HOGTIMUS PRIME really is?

Check out some of his other posts, it's not too hard to figure out if you've been around here a while.