Here's my take on the game - what do you guys think?

hank64 · 09-12-2004, 10:48 PM

Was it just my imagination or did I not hear Shawn Springs' name mentioned during the entire game? Yeah, he didn't make that many plays, but that was because TB wasn't throwing at him, right? That was nice, reminded me of Champ. Just line him up and we never hear from the receiver he's covering.

bedlamVR · 09-13-2004, 01:41 AM

Gardner cannot be blamed entirley for the third down drop that was to the floor the ball was never really to him, I seem to rember him making a spectacular leaping catch to convert key third down at one point. I didn't see all the game in the Uk as the satalite feed was poor but one thing I did see was nearly every time Brunell threw the ball it was a gamble he was lucky not to be picked off quite a few times.

Also special teams need more work on the 54 kick return which lead to the bucs first points the first guy to get a hand on thier returner was Hall.

The game plan on defence was fantastic taking away the 5-8 yard underneath area Brad likes so much taking away his game as if he was allowed to get going he could have dinked and doinked us to death. But in the second half the Bucs started exploiting the D agressiveness as Washington and Arrington seemed to make a habit of running right by the play in an attempt to nail the QB.

Overall though I think we got it done against a quality opponent Gruden and Kiffen are always ready to play and esentially Gibbs and Williams were more than a amatch for them . Someone should really explain the challenge system to Gibbs though because we had some awful calls against us incluing the Brunell spot inside the two.

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 03:03 AM

oh yeah, the ravens are a great offense... for the other team. Those picks helped give clevland the game. I got curtis is 2 leagues (went low cause 1300yds but only 2 tds last year), so i'm happy to see him shred the bengals. jamal on the other hand is killing me

... both daunte and mcnabb are going to get their owners like 35+ points this week lol.

jbcjr14 · 09-13-2004, 08:52 AM

Folks, we better fix the special teams!!!! If we don't, it will cost us at least 1 game this year!!!!

JG said, he will take a look at the film and already knew they have a problem. Imagine they will work hard on that this week.

bridaman51 · 09-13-2004, 09:29 AM

yeah the Special Teams almost killed us, but again the defense bailed us out. Also the QB center exchange needs a good looking at. But I would not right Brunell off, He showed veteran leadership yesterday and kept that offense together, he showed some durability to he got knocked down a few times but popped right up (of course with the OL help). I think he will chuck it deep like he did with Jimmy Smith in Jax, give him some time he will find Coles deep.

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 10:19 AM

yeah ST was awful, so were the center exchanges... and the QB/WR chemistry and run blocking need some work... playbooks a little super-conservative (on offense) too right now.

as long as we don't doze off during the gints game, we have plenty of time to rev up our weak spots.

hogwatcher · 09-13-2004, 11:03 AM

Great game!
I agree with all the positives already mentioned, but one thing I'd like to see is more plays running Portis outside the tackles, rather than up the middle, using that awesome mobility of his.

bridaman51 · 09-13-2004, 11:56 AM

How many times did we see the counter tray yesterday? I dont remember many. I would like to see that reverse we saw during the Atlanta game also.

CrazyCanuck · 09-13-2004, 12:56 PM

My comments:

- Seeing Gibbs back on the sideline is really a dream come true. Always calm, always in control, always planning. Unlike Spurrier...

- Defense looked great. I love all the different blitz packages we brought. It was impossible to tell who was coming on any given play. Great job by G.Williams!

- Would like to see Taylor eventually claim Bowen's role as the blitzing safety. I'll never forget what Roy Williams did to us last year, and I think Taylor could cause similar havoc. Great job by Bowen though, he looked great.

- The offense was extremely conservative (Gibbs trademark), but I would like to see a few more shots downfield. Coles is too good and should be getting more touches. I think Gardner can have a huge year if he holds onto the ball. Gibbs loves to use the "possession receiver" (see Art Monk) and Gardner fits the mold perfectly.

- Great display by Portis. His speed is awesome and he seems to be able to grind it out just as easily. Personally I'd like to see Betts get more carries to take some of the load of Portis. Especially on those drives where Gibbs is just grinding clock and running between the tackles. No need for Portis to get beat up when we're grinding for 2-3 yards.

- Special teams were a little shaky especially on coverage. Also, I wasn't too impressed with Morton back there, he seemed a little sluggish. I would have liked to see a little more of what Gari Scott could do especially on punt returns. He seemed very quick in the preseason.

- Both lines played well. Props to the OL. It was a pleasure to see our QB upright for the whole game.

All in all a very solid performance. Great work by Gibbs, the staff, and the players. It was the first time in a while that we looked like one cohesive unit (ie a TEAM)!

GO SKINS

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 12:39 PM

yeah, he does a lot better on screens and running around the corner...

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Gibbs loves to use the "possession receiver" (see Art Monk) and Gardner fits the mold perfectly.

wouldn't he need to... umm... possess the ball then? he's kinda got a history of the drops.

offiss · 09-13-2004, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

wouldn't he need to... umm... possess the ball then? he's kinda got a history of the drops.

Ya got that right. Gardner is like what Joey T. described last night, the little girl with the curl, she'll break your heart, but then she smiles and start's looking real good.

CrazyCanuck · 09-13-2004, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

wouldn't he need to... umm... possess the ball then? he's kinda got a history of the drops.

Agreed. That's why I said "I think Gardner can have a huge year if he holds onto the ball."

I realize that "Gardner holding the ball" is a big if.

JWsleep · 09-13-2004, 01:08 PM

Well put, Canuck. Man, wasn't it incredible to see Gibbs out there again? Goose bump city!

And I expect we'll see more of Gibbs flash on offense as everyone gets more comfortable.

CrazyCanuck · 09-13-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Man, wasn't it incredible to see Gibbs out there again?

Ya, seeing Gibbs back out there is the real highlight. Everything else is just gravy.

09-13-2004, 08:52 AM	#4
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,015	Folks, we better fix the special teams!!!! If we don't, it will cost us at least 1 game this year!!!! JG said, he will take a look at the film and already knew they have a problem. Imagine they will work hard on that this week. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

09-13-2004, 01:08 PM	#14
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Well put, Canuck. Man, wasn't it incredible to see Gibbs out there again? Goose bump city! And I expect we'll see more of Gibbs flash on offense as everyone gets more comfortable. __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-12-2004, 10:48 PM	#1
hank64 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 63	Was it just my imagination or did I not hear Shawn Springs' name mentioned during the entire game? Yeah, he didn't make that many plays, but that was because TB wasn't throwing at him, right? That was nice, reminded me of Champ. Just line him up and we never hear from the receiver he's covering.

09-13-2004, 01:41 AM	#2
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Gardner cannot be blamed entirley for the third down drop that was to the floor the ball was never really to him, I seem to rember him making a spectacular leaping catch to convert key third down at one point. I didn't see all the game in the Uk as the satalite feed was poor but one thing I did see was nearly every time Brunell threw the ball it was a gamble he was lucky not to be picked off quite a few times. Also special teams need more work on the 54 kick return which lead to the bucs first points the first guy to get a hand on thier returner was Hall. The game plan on defence was fantastic taking away the 5-8 yard underneath area Brad likes so much taking away his game as if he was allowed to get going he could have dinked and doinked us to death. But in the second half the Bucs started exploiting the D agressiveness as Washington and Arrington seemed to make a habit of running right by the play in an attempt to nail the QB. Overall though I think we got it done against a quality opponent Gruden and Kiffen are always ready to play and esentially Gibbs and Williams were more than a amatch for them . Someone should really explain the challenge system to Gibbs though because we had some awful calls against us incluing the Brunell spot inside the two.

09-13-2004, 03:03 AM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	oh yeah, the ravens are a great offense... for the other team. Those picks helped give clevland the game. I got curtis is 2 leagues (went low cause 1300yds but only 2 tds last year), so i'm happy to see him shred the bengals. jamal on the other hand is killing me ... both daunte and mcnabb are going to get their owners like 35+ points this week lol.

09-13-2004, 09:29 AM	#5
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 335	yeah the Special Teams almost killed us, but again the defense bailed us out. Also the QB center exchange needs a good looking at. But I would not right Brunell off, He showed veteran leadership yesterday and kept that offense together, he showed some durability to he got knocked down a few times but popped right up (of course with the OL help). I think he will chuck it deep like he did with Jimmy Smith in Jax, give him some time he will find Coles deep.

09-13-2004, 10:19 AM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	yeah ST was awful, so were the center exchanges... and the QB/WR chemistry and run blocking need some work... playbooks a little super-conservative (on offense) too right now. as long as we don't doze off during the gints game, we have plenty of time to rev up our weak spots.

09-13-2004, 11:03 AM	#7
hogwatcher Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wigan, U.K. Posts: 7	Great game! I agree with all the positives already mentioned, but one thing I'd like to see is more plays running Portis outside the tackles, rather than up the middle, using that awesome mobility of his.

09-13-2004, 11:56 AM	#8
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 335	How many times did we see the counter tray yesterday? I dont remember many. I would like to see that reverse we saw during the Atlanta game also.

09-13-2004, 12:56 PM	#9
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	My comments: - Seeing Gibbs back on the sideline is really a dream come true. Always calm, always in control, always planning. Unlike Spurrier... - Defense looked great. I love all the different blitz packages we brought. It was impossible to tell who was coming on any given play. Great job by G.Williams! - Would like to see Taylor eventually claim Bowen's role as the blitzing safety. I'll never forget what Roy Williams did to us last year, and I think Taylor could cause similar havoc. Great job by Bowen though, he looked great. - The offense was extremely conservative (Gibbs trademark), but I would like to see a few more shots downfield. Coles is too good and should be getting more touches. I think Gardner can have a huge year if he holds onto the ball. Gibbs loves to use the "possession receiver" (see Art Monk) and Gardner fits the mold perfectly. - Great display by Portis. His speed is awesome and he seems to be able to grind it out just as easily. Personally I'd like to see Betts get more carries to take some of the load of Portis. Especially on those drives where Gibbs is just grinding clock and running between the tackles. No need for Portis to get beat up when we're grinding for 2-3 yards. - Special teams were a little shaky especially on coverage. Also, I wasn't too impressed with Morton back there, he seemed a little sluggish. I would have liked to see a little more of what Gari Scott could do especially on punt returns. He seemed very quick in the preseason. - Both lines played well. Props to the OL. It was a pleasure to see our QB upright for the whole game. All in all a very solid performance. Great work by Gibbs, the staff, and the players. It was the first time in a while that we looked like one cohesive unit (ie a TEAM)! GO SKINS

09-13-2004, 12:39 PM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	yeah, he does a lot better on screens and running around the corner...

Here's my take on the game - what do you guys think?

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