Observation on Campbell

[schndr_tdd]

Hes smoking pot! Thats why hes slow.lol.COLT BRENNAN !!!!!At least he will try to throw 25 or 30 touchdown passes......

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by schndr_tdd

Hes smoking pot! Thats why hes slow.lol.COLT BRENNAN !!!!!At least he will try to throw 25 or 30 touchdown passes......

Hey now that is an original idea to the JC stuff!!!!!! Funny

[Redskin Warrior]

I think the Redskins will let Campbell go and he will be a monster for another team IMO. The talk about him holding the ball too long is bogus. I hardly ever saw a receiver open constantly, and if that wasn't the case the o-line didn't take care of business in pass protection. The QB must depend on his receivers to get open and the line to block. I must agree he was a bit inaccurate this season. Beyond that most thing folks complain about aren't directly Campbell's fault IMO.

[WaldSkins]

How doesn't that make any sense? Teams figured out that our offense revolved around Portis so they stacked the line to stop the run and forced us to pass. So if they are selling out to stop the run, we gotta pass. Guess what we can't do????

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

How doesn't that make any sense? Teams figured out that our offense revolved around Portis so they stacked the line to stop the run and forced us to pass. So if they are selling out to stop the run, we gotta pass. Guess what we can't do????

I tend to think that, unless you have an elite passer, the inability to run the ball pretty much destroys any possibility of passing the ball. But, it sounds like you graduated from the Andy Reid "you pass to set up the run" school of football.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I tend to think that, unless you have an elite passer, the inability to run the ball pretty much destroys any possibility of passing the ball. But, it sounds like you graduated from the Andy Reid "you pass to set up the run" school of football.

I think it's funny how people say the run has to set up the pass, especially when NE showed last yr the pass can set up the run. I truely believe it depends on what the strength of the team is. If you are good at passing then pass will set up the run. If you are good at running then run will set up the pass. Teams have to figure out how to stop what your doing. When they stop one aspect of your game then it's time to utilize the other. Our problem was we were a strong run team which meant we had to set up the pass but we had no passing game. During games when teams moved everyone within 10 yrds of the line of scrimage was when we needed to pass and couldn't. Everyone figured it out by week 7.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think it's funny how people say the run has to set up the pass, especially when NE showed last yr the pass can set up the run. I truely believe it depends on what the strength of the team is. If you are good at passing then pass will set up the run. If you are good at running then run will set up the pass. Teams have to figure out how to stop what your doing. When they stop one aspect of your game then it's time to utilize the other. Our problem was we were a strong run team which meant we had to set up the pass but we had no passing game. During games when teams moved everyone within 10 yrds of the line of scrimage was when we needed to pass and couldn't. Everyone figured it out by week 7.

you're right no backfield feared Maroni. Give me a break.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think it's funny how people say the run has to set up the pass, especially when NE showed last yr the pass can set up the run. I truely believe it depends on what the strength of the team is. If you are good at passing then pass will set up the run. If you are good at running then run will set up the pass. Teams have to figure out how to stop what your doing. When they stop one aspect of your game then it's time to utilize the other. Our problem was we were a strong run team which meant we had to set up the pass but we had no passing game. During games when teams moved everyone within 10 yrds of the line of scrimage was when we needed to pass and couldn't. Everyone figured it out by week 7.

Exactly, different teams have different strengths. We are run first, whereas someone like Arizona is pass first.

[44ever]

they knew our offence revolved around Portis from day one. Stacking the line didn't stop Portis his injuries did and injured he was still able to penetrate. Plus we had no trouble passing earlier in the season when Portis was healthy. So you're argument makes no sense.

I understand there are Skin fans out there that have given up on JC. You're perfectly entitled and you may prove to be correct. I was only giving Davy my perspective as to why we were sucsessful passing the first part of the season but not the later.

[SBXVII]

JC is from the south. He has a laid back attitude about everything. We have to take the good with the bad. With this laid back attitude you get a calm collected pocket passer who does not get flustered. ...the bad is he's laid back and not in panick mode when we are 2 scores down with 3 min. left in the game.

The question is which do you want? the panicky QB who sometimes throws interceptions....Romo, or would you rather have the calm collected QB who controls the ball JC? Sometime teams get lucky and get the in between type of QB ie; Brady, Payton Manning, and Farve.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

JC is from the south. He has a laid back attitude about everything. We have to take the good with the bad. With this laid back attitude you get a calm collected pocket passer who does not get flustered. ...the bad is he's laid back and not in panick mode when we are 2 scores down with 3 min. left in the game.

The question is which do you want? the panicky QB who sometimes throws interceptions....Romo, or would you rather have the calm collected QB who controls the ball JC? Sometime teams get lucky and get the in between type of QB ie; Brady, Payton Manning, and Farve.

he gets flustered, you can see it in his face, he just doesn't make it verbal it seems

favre owns the INT column

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

he gets flustered, you can see it in his face, he just doesn't make it verbal it seems

Ah, yes, the old "face" test. I hear Bill Walsh was a big proponent of using this method to break down opponents.

I can't believe this thread has gone to five pages.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

This is a little late to say now that the season is over...but its something thats been bugging me. Jason Campbell is slow in everything he does. When I watch him back in the pocket, he has no urgency to throw the ball; he takes forever to look look at his second or third target, he has a slow release on the ball, he doesnt drop back quickly, and hes not that fast of a runner (and the worst slider Ive ever seen...seriously its not that hard). I think he's got an OK arm (good strength, not so good acuracy), seems to make OK decisions when he throws the ball, but makes too many non decisions due to his slow processing. I really dont think this guy can get the job done and we need to get someone who can.

Listen to these clips on Campbell especially Jaws breakdown:

Jaws previews Cowboys-Giants, Colts-Patriots and Titans-Packers and says Jason Campbell is the MVP of the league


Jason Campbell - Audio - ESPN

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Listen to these clips on Campbell especially Jaws breakdown:

Jaws previews Cowboys-Giants, Colts-Patriots and Titans-Packers and says Jason Campbell is the MVP of the league


Jason Campbell - Audio - ESPN

that was in october

[30gut]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

but yes, he definitely locks in too much.. telegraphs every throw and if he doesn't have cooley or someone to drop it off to, he's lost... a lot of qb's only look at one side of the field and it seems like he looks at even less

What makes you say this?

One of the things Zorn and others (Jaws, Aikman) praise Jason for is that he does go through his progressions.

Campbell Is Earning Zorn's Trust - washingtonpost.com

The tendency was something Zorn knew he would have to address with Campbell, but the former Seahawks quarterback smiled as he analyzed the young signal caller's performance during his news conference later in the day.

"Remember, at the beginning of the season I couldn't get him off that receiver and now he is off him, you know, five yards down the field. Boy, he's looking for number two and number three," the first-year head coach said, chuckling. "So we'll get him back on track. I think he's playing well, though."

I don't know bro, this is like a direct contradiction of what you're saying huh?

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

that was in october

But it doesn't change the fact that Jason was at one point being considered for league MVP.

Here's a question for you and BeastsoftheNFCeast and BigHairedAristocrat

If Jason was being considered for MVP can you admit that Jason was at least playing well in the 1st half of the season?

Here are some more quotes you might like:
With tough love from Zorn, Campbell now among elite QBs - USATODAY.com

Former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher considers Campbell a leading candidate for mid-season league MVP.

"Jason Campbell has played as well as anybody has in the NFL at his position," Cowher, now a CBS analyst, says. "He's thrown for good numbers. He's got no turnovers. He's big, strong and able to move out of the pocket and make throws down the field.

"He's brought his team back when they've been down. I've been very impressed with Jason Campbell's play."
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Fox Sports lead NFL analyst Troy Aikman says"With all the coaching changes, I didn't know how it would play out with Jim Zorn becoming a first-time head coach and play-caller and losing defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and Jason Campbell having to learn a new system again."
"The reason they're closing people out is the way Jim Zorn is calling games.
"He's going for it on fourth down and throwing on first down in the fourth quarter because Jason understands about taking care of the ball."

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"I thought Jason would eventually play well under Jim Zorn," ESPN Monday Night Football analyst Ron Jaworski says. "I didn't think he'd play this well, this early.
"I've seen his game ascending. He can make every throw a quarterback has to have, the tough stick throw, the deep out, the seam route. He has great anticipation. I thought he'd become a rock-solid quarterback.
"That it's happened this quickly really is a tribute to Jim Zorn."