Renaldo Wynn Agrees To Terms With Skins

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I said that if you could get Wynn and Daniels for the same amount of money that you were paying Daniels or for a little more than that would be a good thing.

You've got two guys for the price of one (if Phillips signs) that know the system and aren't asked to do something they can't, pass-rush. They can get pressure and add Haynesworth to the mix who knows?

We can't rebuild the team in one year. We've gotten younger in some areas and kept depth in others. If we could get Washington back for cheap that'd be good too.

This is a youth movement, make no mistake about it. Even though these guys are older they're not the future of this team and they know it. Daniels and Wynn probably don't have any illusions of SB rings. They want to play out their careers in a good locker room, with guys they know and like, and with a coach they respect. That's why they tried to package themselves for a deal.

As much as people like to bad mouth our team the truth is our defense is bad *** and has been for awhile. Almost every win that we've had over the past few years has been because of the defense with rare exception. If the offense didn't leave the poor bastards out on the field for 3/4s of every GD game, they'd have won a SB or two by now.

These guys will be gone in the next two years or until a younger guy can be brought in. So be it. These guys work hard and you never hear them really mouth off.

I think a lot of our players go out to look for better, but only a few actually stay away. I am glad he is back, if only as backup and locker room leadership. It says something about the Redskins, that a) players like to come here -not just for the money, and b) that the FO doesn't hold a lot of grudges or bad blood. If Wynn and Daniels come back and we are able to bolster the o-line, we should have a solid team that can compete in the NFCE this season.

[SC Skins Fan]

Seems to me there are more people saying "chill out!" in this thread than there are people bashing the move (which we already knew was coming). Of the "bashers" at least a couple did so ironically.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I said that if you could get Wynn and Daniels for the same amount of money that you were paying Daniels or for a little more than that would be a good thing.

You've got two guys for the price of one (if Phillips signs) that know the system and aren't asked to do something they can't, pass-rush. They can get pressure and add Haynesworth to the mix who knows?

We can't rebuild the team in one year. We've gotten younger in some areas and kept depth in others. If we could get Washington back for cheap that'd be good too.

This is a youth movement, make no mistake about it. Even though these guys are older they're not the future of this team and they know it. Daniels and Wynn probably don't have any illusions of SB rings. They want to play out their careers in a good locker room, with guys they know and like, and with a coach they respect. That's why they tried to package themselves for a deal.

As much as people like to bad mouth our team the truth is our defense is bad ass and has been for awhile. Almost every win that we've had over the past few years has been because of the defense with rare exception. If the offense didn't leave the poor bastards out on the field for 3/4s of every GD game, they'd have won a SB or two by now.

These guys will be gone in the next two years or until a younger guy can be brought in. So be it. These guys work hard and you never hear them really mouth off.

I see your agument. I think our defense was playoff caliber. I wouldn't put it in the same category as Balt or Pitt. I also get the feeling that the coaches on this team prefer to work with older guys and don't have patience for young guys.

[The Goat]

I'm trying to not get pissed about all the pissing around here but jeez... give the guy a break. Last year in very limited playing time, not because of health/injury but because he was part of an elite defensive line, he got in on 25 tackles and 2 sacks. In '07 he played even less for NO and got 3.5 sacks - I believe that's about what our starting corp of DEs averaged in sacks last year. Wynn will be a rotational player so he'll be fresh nearly all the time (Blache does a good job rotating all the d-linemen btw) and again he's basically been resting the last couple of years. He's also basically as good as any FA DE left on the market aside from a healthy P. Daniels. Can we stop w/ the bashing now?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm trying to not get pissed about all the pissing around here but jeez... give the guy a break. Last year in very limited playing time, not because of health/injury but because he was part of an elite defensive line, he got in on 25 tackles and 2 sacks. In '07 he played even less for NO and got 3.5 sacks - I believe that's about what our starting corp of DEs averaged in sacks last year. Wynn will be a rotational player so he'll be fresh nearly all the time (Blache does a good job rotating all the d-linemen btw) and again he's basically been resting the last couple of years. He's also basically as good as any FA DE left on the market aside from a healthy P. Daniels. Can we stop w/ the bashing now?

OK. He can stay.

[The Goat]

^^^ Nice!!! Said it better than I could and now I can rest a little easier...

[FRPLG]

Ho hum. I agree with Matty. Sign Daniels and sit at DE for a year. On the other hand I'd like a little more info on this "Palermo struggles" deal. How the hell does a position coach struggle? We're talking technique here basically right? does technique drastically change from college to pros? That sounds dubious to me.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Ho hum. I agree with Matty. Sign Daniels and sit at DE for a year. On the other hand I'd like a little more info on this "Palermo struggles" deal. How the hell does a position coach struggle? We're talking technique here basically right? does technique drastically change from college to pros? That sounds dubious to me.

I hadn't really noticed that when I first read it. But it reminded me of an interview he gave where he was saying he needed to step up himself. Makes sense now.

[Monkeydad]

Since no one else will say it, welcome back Renaldo.

It's a good depth signing.

[SFREDSKIN]

I smell desperation on this move.

[53Fan]

I've also read that Kendall could be resigned to be a back up guard/center, and used at RG if Thomas is slow to recover.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I've also read that Kendall could be resigned to be a back up guard/center, and used at RG if Thomas is slow to recover.

Why not skip this old geezers and address the OL/DL in the draft.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Why not skip this old geezers and address the OL/DL in the draft.

Insurance until the young guys are ready I guess.

[RedTempleSkin]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Insurance until the young guys are ready I guess.

I was not a big fan of this when I first heard we were interested, but it is smart to have experience that a rookie can learn from. It also keeps us from reaching in the draft and being forced to take a player at a specific position, now we have experience in some of our weaker areas.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by RedTempleSkin

I was not a big fan of this when I first heard we were interested, but it is smart to have experience that a rookie can learn from. It also keeps us from reaching in the draft and being forced to take a player at a specific position, now we have experience in some of our weaker areas.

Good post. I think that is exactly why we signed him.