Randy Thomas Risked it All!

dmek25 · 04-16-2009, 03:51 PM

this is insanity at its highest. i love sports, and love to compete. but i love life, just alittle bit more

MTK · 04-16-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

No. The decision on who steps on the field is the coaches. A majority of the players will play if they can physically get on the field.

A herniated disk in the neck is pretty serious. I draw the line at putting a player on the field when you're looking at a chance of potential paralysis from the neck down.

Right, and the guy was obviously healthy enough to play.

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

SmootSmack · 04-16-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The things these guys put their bodies through is nothing short of amazing.

Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. Many of the former players I see walking around here look like they're in constant agony

Schneed10 · 04-16-2009, 04:01 PM

Man we must be used to having nothing to talk about, we're arguing whether the coaching staff should have let him play.

Isn't the more important and interesting thing that the guy is healthy. I'd rather discuss whether he can return to form and pave the way for Portis than discuss whether he should have played last year.

I mean he played, he didn't get hurt, it's over. Let's talk about this year.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 04-16-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

And if you're the coach, and the chance is say 10-15%, and you let him get on the field, and his number comes up, what did you take that risk for? Was it worth it? What about the SF game, why risk it? We were already out of the playoffs.

jsarno · 04-16-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

And if you're the coach, and the chance is say 10-15%, and you let him get on the field, and his number comes up, what did you take that risk for? Was it worth it? What about the SF game, why risk it? We were already out of the playoffs.

Ya, that one didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I can see doing it for the team, but if we were already out, why do that?

Still...more people should be cheering Thomas! Dumb or not, he did it for the team...wish others had that dedication to the team.

FRPLG · 04-16-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Right, and the guy was obviously healthy enough to play.

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

That's my thought. I don't think the article had the proper context and quite honestly was a little alarmist. I just don't believe teh team would allow someone to realistically risk paralysis in an ongoing fashion.

saden1 · 04-16-2009, 04:56 PM

After Shawne Merriman don't underestimate the stupidity of these guys.

firstdown · 04-17-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

There is a difference in them going on the field risking injury and going on the field with a risk of paralysis. I respect the fact that he wanted to play with hopes at making the playoffs but at some point the coaching staff and meds. have to step in. To make it even worse they let him play in a meanless game at the end of the season. What would we have thought about the coaches and trainers if something bad did happen and if it then happened in our last meanless game at that.

tryfuhl · 04-19-2009, 09:28 PM

Damn, I didn't know that it was that bad. You gotta love the effort and just be thankful that nothing overly serious came of it. Hopefully he can get out there with a renewed drive this year.

tryfuhl · 04-19-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Man we must be used to having nothing to talk about, we're arguing whether the coaching staff should have let him play.

Isn't the more important and interesting thing that the guy is healthy. I'd rather discuss whether he can return to form and pave the way for Portis than discuss whether he should have played last year.

I mean he played, he didn't get hurt, it's over. Let's talk about this year.

Also agreed with -- but there will obviously be hindsight after hearing of this. I just wanna know why somebody brought up Colt in here haha

GMScud · 04-19-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

After Shawne Merriman don't underestimate the stupidity of these guys.

Yeah. This Randy Thomas thing reminds of Lawrence Taylor's character in Any Given Sunday.

I love Randy and his toughness was never in doubt, even before this story came out. But damn dude. He's in his early 30's, already a multi-millionaire, and risked being paralyzed for the rest of his life to play a few more football games? That's stupidity more than toughness IMO.

Lotus · 04-19-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Also agreed with -- but there will obviously be hindsight after hearing of this. I just wanna know why somebody brought up Colt in here haha

Don't you know that Colt is God?

The Goat · 04-19-2009, 10:01 PM

The more I think about Randy's situation the less sense it all makes. I mean he was pretty compromised out there and it showed in his play...Buges could have given one of the young guys reps for experience sake. Especially since we've heard Rinehart began to regain his confidence toward the end of the season. Throw him in @ guard and let him get his ass handed to him a few times to bring out the mean streak, which I know he had in college as the majority of his opponents ended up on their asses.

...anyway this situation don't make sense and the FO/coaches should be prepared for Randy's retirement if anything goes wrong.

...not pissing on the guy though. He's been my favorite lineman for a long while...do ya'll remember how awesome it was to watch him pull to the outside or just mash the guys directly in front of him?

Jamaican'Skin · 04-20-2009, 09:51 AM

I can appreciate what he did, but I don't think a win on the football field is the equivalent to someone's life. He was blessed that nothing happened to him during the second half of the season, but what if something did? The blame would have to fall on Randy. After the whole Shawn Merriman incident at the beginning of last season, it is quite clear that the training staff only views the players as meat. You go out there, and play, you get injured, I patch you up good enough so you can continue to play, end of the season I let you go.

I'm glad he's doing better and I hope he performs to the best of his abilities this season.

04-16-2009, 03:51 PM	#31
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Randy Thomas Risked it All! this is insanity at its highest. i love sports, and love to compete. but i love life, just alittle bit more __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

04-16-2009, 04:01 PM	#34
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Randy Thomas Risked it All! Man we must be used to having nothing to talk about, we're arguing whether the coaching staff should have let him play. Isn't the more important and interesting thing that the guy is healthy. I'd rather discuss whether he can return to form and pave the way for Portis than discuss whether he should have played last year. I mean he played, he didn't get hurt, it's over. Let's talk about this year. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

04-16-2009, 04:56 PM	#38
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Randy Thomas Risked it All! After Shawne Merriman don't underestimate the stupidity of these guys. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

04-19-2009, 09:28 PM	#40
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 42 Posts: 12,514	Re: Randy Thomas Risked it All! Damn, I didn't know that it was that bad. You gotta love the effort and just be thankful that nothing overly serious came of it. Hopefully he can get out there with a renewed drive this year.

04-19-2009, 10:01 PM	#44
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Randy Thomas Risked it All! The more I think about Randy's situation the less sense it all makes. I mean he was pretty compromised out there and it showed in his play...Buges could have given one of the young guys reps for experience sake. Especially since we've heard Rinehart began to regain his confidence toward the end of the season. Throw him in @ guard and let him get his ass handed to him a few times to bring out the mean streak, which I know he had in college as the majority of his opponents ended up on their asses. ...anyway this situation don't make sense and the FO/coaches should be prepared for Randy's retirement if anything goes wrong. ...not pissing on the guy though. He's been my favorite lineman for a long while...do ya'll remember how awesome it was to watch him pull to the outside or just mash the guys directly in front of him? __________________ 24-34

04-20-2009, 09:51 AM	#45
Jamaican'Skin The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 38 Posts: 2,418	Re: Randy Thomas Risked it All! I can appreciate what he did, but I don't think a win on the football field is the equivalent to someone's life. He was blessed that nothing happened to him during the second half of the season, but what if something did? The blame would have to fall on Randy. After the whole Shawn Merriman incident at the beginning of last season, it is quite clear that the training staff only views the players as meat. You go out there, and play, you get injured, I patch you up good enough so you can continue to play, end of the season I let you go. I'm glad he's doing better and I hope he performs to the best of his abilities this season.

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