"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

tryfuhl · 08-23-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by insideman

How many more excuses can Zorn and Campbell come with for their poor performances on the field. Why can't Zorn just tell everyone like it is. Zorn, should say "I can't call plays" and Campbell should say "I can't quarter back". I'm starting to feel like others. Maybe we should gone with another QB. Because tonight was not on the offense line, but on Campbell himself.

we always have an excuse but I'll hold final judgment for awhile

if someone else on another team plays fine we don't offer praise, but if our guy can't even accomplish half of it, there are excuses

kinda funny eh

stu_nna · 08-23-2009, 06:46 AM

Lets not forget two of those 7 passes were throwaways

DBUCHANON101 · 08-23-2009, 07:04 AM

JC isnt doing much to show DS he was wrong in trying to trade him. You would think this guy would come out like gangbusters and try to make a statement. Look at the other good QB's like Manning and Rodgers,came out and lead their team to scores and called it a night. Yes its preseason. but you would still like to see some spark from this guy and have him show that he has improved.

44Deezel · 08-23-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I guess they forgot that it was a downpoor!! Most QB'S can't throw in these kind of conditions... Batch was like 5-14 or something..

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Batch is also the Steelers #2 QB, and he was going up against our first team D. JC looked worse than any QB that took the field last night, but I guess if he's getting time to throw and all the WRs are healthy, we have to find other excuses for him (rain). The long balls were especially ugly. Batch converted back to back 3rd and longs against our first team D. The thought that went through my mind when I saw that - JC couldn't have done that. But alas, it's only pre-season.

dmek25 · 08-23-2009, 07:22 AM

i don't think Campbell was all that bad last night. with that out of the way, the days of making excuses for him is over. sooner or later, he just going to have to do it. those screen plays, against that caliber of defense, is just plain bad play calling. he did the right thing both times

GTripp0012 · 08-23-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't think Campbell was all that bad last night. with that out of the way, the days of making excuses for him is over. sooner or later, he just going to have to do it. those screen plays, against that caliber of defense, is just plain bad play calling. he did the right thing both times

I think it's ridiculous the amount of value being put on his performance in the preseason (not that you are in any way responsible). How much can you truly accomplish in 5 passes? To have a 120 yard day, Campbell would have had to average 24 yards an attempt (i.e. complete both deep passes), which is no ones idea of realistic. Yet, that's what he'd have to do in the preseason to shut up his critics.

Chico23231 · 08-23-2009, 07:28 AM

I see alot excuses being made...bottom line JC has not looked good at all so far...O-line has been solid for him...zorn play calling is vanilla as its the preseason....but the bottom line is JC has not looked good so far...

redskin37 · 08-23-2009, 07:33 AM

The starters need to play 2 1/2 - 3 quarters next week.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-23-2009, 07:52 AM

Cutler 13 att 121 yds 1 td
Rivers 7 att 116 yds
Russell 11 att 76 yds 1 td
Brees 14 att 87 yds 1 td
Schaub 16 att 97 yds 1td
Rodgers 9 att 98 yds 2 tds
Garrard 16 att 216 yds 1td
Pennington 11 att 105 yds 1 td
Ryan 8 att 81 yds 1 td
McNabb 7 att 77 yds 1 td
P.Manning 14 att 167 yds 2 tds
Just thought i would show what some of the 'other' starting Qb's did this week. JC needs to get going,he is not helping himself with these poor performances he is having.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-23-2009, 08:23 AM

I think that even the Jason Campbell apologists have to raise an eyebrown on this performance. He had time and did nothing with it. He had two opportunities downfield and threw two bad balls. And even his mother would tell you he doesn't throw a good short ball.

I am not calling for Collins (yet) but he simply had a terrible game. For a guy who's career as a starter is on the line, he needs to pick it up.

GTripp0012 · 08-23-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I think that even the Jason Campbell apologists have to raise an eyebrown on this performance. He had time and did nothing with it. He had two opportunities downfield and threw two bad balls. And even his mother would tell you he doesn't throw a good short ball.

I am not calling for Collins (yet) but he simply had a terrible game. For a guy who's career as a starter is on the line, he needs to pick it up.

I think you're saying that even though it's Week 2 of the Preseason, that we should expect more from the first team offense.

I'm not buying what you're selling. The offensive line played well, but the dress rehearsal isn't until next week, and no one on the first team's job is on the line. So I'm finding it much harder than most to get really irritated about 3/7 DSR against the World Champs. It's such a mediocre, expected result that I just don't care enough to get truly critical of anyone's performance.

But if I did, I'm sure I could find a bunch of things Campbell did well. It's just that it's so completely irrelevant that it's not worth my time. His job isn't on the line as long as his team is winning and yesterday, they won a meaningless game.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-23-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think you're saying that even though it's Week 2 of the Preseason, that we should expect more from the first team offense.

I'm not buying what you're selling. The offensive line played well, but the dress rehearsal isn't until next week, and no one on the first team's job is on the line. So I'm finding it much harder than most to get really irritated about 3/7 DSR against the World Champs. It's such a mediocre, expected result that I just don't care enough to get truly critical of anyone's performance.

But if I did, I'm sure I could find a bunch of things Campbell did well. It's just that it's so completely irrelevant that it's not worth my time. His job isn't on the line as long as his team is winning and yesterday, they won a meaningless game.

It doesn't bother you that you have to search through game tape to find some positives? You don't have to do that for Peyton, Romo or Cutler this week.

I am not selling anything. 1 for 7 including two bad deep throws sucks. This is pretty simple and does not need a whole lot of analysis. A performance like this needs to be the exception this year or he is gone and no one can say that he didn't get a fair chance. I am happy that it looks like the guys behind him are legit (although Collins already proved that two seasons ago).

redskinsgirl · 08-23-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

It doesn't bother you that you have to search through game tape to find some positives? You don't have to do that for Peyton, Romo or Cutler this week.

I am not selling anything. 1 for 7 including two bad deep throws sucks. This is pretty simple and does not need a whole lot of analysis. A performance like this needs to be the exception this year or he is gone and no one can say that he didn't get a fair chance. I am happy that it looks like the guys behind him are legit (although Collins already proved that two seasons ago).

How are they legit? Collins and Brennan didn't score in either preseason games. They didn't even get the team into field goal position. JC, Collins, or Brennan didn't look great in the last two games. Brennan may lose his position to Daniels if he puts up another bad performance and Daniels puts up another good one. It looks like if JC fails the skins will be drafting a QB in 2010.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-23-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

How are they legit? Collins and Brennan didn't score in either preseason games. They didn't even get the team into field goal position. JC, Collins, or Brennan didn't look great in the last two games. Brennan may lose his position to Daniels if he puts up another bad performance and Daniels puts up another good one. It looks like if JC fails the skins will be drafting a QB in 2010.

Collins took us to the playoffs. things have changed since then with the offenses but he is capable. Brennan threw a pick but was 3-5 with 1 throw away so other than a bad pass he did ok. Chase did very well, nice runs and a good lob to Marko.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-23-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

How are they legit? Collins and Brennan didn't score in either preseason games. They didn't even get the team into field goal position. JC, Collins, or Brennan didn't look great in the last two games. Brennan may lose his position to Daniels if he puts up another bad performance and Daniels puts up another good one. It looks like if JC fails the skins will be drafting a QB in 2010.

Ummmm.... Collins moved them into field goal range against the Ravens and then Davis fumbled. I like his decision making and he is throwing accurate balls. Thomas let him down and Hackett should have made that play too.

Pinapple Judas marched them down to the 11 before the pick. I thought he put together a nice drive up to that point. He also had a long first down play against Baltimore before it became 2 mississippi.

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08-23-2009, 07:04 AM	#3
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" JC isnt doing much to show DS he was wrong in trying to trade him. You would think this guy would come out like gangbusters and try to make a statement. Look at the other good QB's like Manning and Rodgers,came out and lead their team to scores and called it a night. Yes its preseason. but you would still like to see some spark from this guy and have him show that he has improved. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-23-2009, 07:22 AM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" i don't think Campbell was all that bad last night. with that out of the way, the days of making excuses for him is over. sooner or later, he just going to have to do it. those screen plays, against that caliber of defense, is just plain bad play calling. he did the right thing both times __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-23-2009, 07:28 AM	#7
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" I see alot excuses being made...bottom line JC has not looked good at all so far...O-line has been solid for him...zorn play calling is vanilla as its the preseason....but the bottom line is JC has not looked good so far...

08-23-2009, 07:33 AM	#8
redskin37 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oneida N.Y Posts: 138	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" The starters need to play 2 1/2 - 3 quarters next week.

08-23-2009, 06:46 AM	#2
stu_nna Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 239	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" Lets not forget two of those 7 passes were throwaways

08-23-2009, 07:52 AM	#9
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" Cutler 13 att 121 yds 1 td Rivers 7 att 116 yds Russell 11 att 76 yds 1 td Brees 14 att 87 yds 1 td Schaub 16 att 97 yds 1td Rodgers 9 att 98 yds 2 tds Garrard 16 att 216 yds 1td Pennington 11 att 105 yds 1 td Ryan 8 att 81 yds 1 td McNabb 7 att 77 yds 1 td P.Manning 14 att 167 yds 2 tds Just thought i would show what some of the 'other' starting Qb's did this week. JC needs to get going,he is not helping himself with these poor performances he is having. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-23-2009, 08:23 AM	#10
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" I think that even the Jason Campbell apologists have to raise an eyebrown on this performance. He had time and did nothing with it. He had two opportunities downfield and threw two bad balls. And even his mother would tell you he doesn't throw a good short ball. I am not calling for Collins (yet) but he simply had a terrible game. For a guy who's career as a starter is on the line, he needs to pick it up.

"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

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