Raiders get Richard Seymour?

skinsfan_nn · 09-07-2009, 11:24 AM

Maybe RS will be a no show,to the clown show.......?

What if Richard Seymour doesn't show in Oakland?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 7, 2009 10:11 AM ET
A league source has raised an intriguing concept with us.

It's established, via Peter King of SI.com, that former Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour is "angry" about the trade that sent him into football's literal and figurative Black Hole.

A good friend of Seymour's told King on Sunday, "I would not be surprised if he doesn't report."

We've heard the same sentiment. So the source posed a great question.

What happens if Seymour doesn't show?

It's not completely out of the question. Seymour held out not once but twice from the Patriots during his time there, and Seymour's agent is -- you guessed it -- Eugene Parker, who currently is embroiled in one of the nastiest rookie holdouts in recent memory, as the agent for 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree.

So, if Seymour refuses to report to the Raiders, either because he doesn't want to play for the Raiders or because they're not offering him the kind of contract he wants, what happens?

Because all trades hinge on the player showing up and passing a physical, Seymour wouldn't become a Raider unless he enters the building. Thus, it apparently would fall back to the Patriots to take action against Seymour aimed at coaxing him to honor the last year of his current contract.

Under that contract, he's due to earn $3.685 million this year. That's more than $216,000 per game he'll lose if he doesn't accept the trade, in addition to any other potential fines that could be imposed.

If he stays out past Week Ten his contract will toll for a year, keeping him from becoming an unrestricted free agent in what looks to be an uncapped year. But this situation can't linger for two months. At some point, the Raiders will reel in that first-round pick, and the Pats will be forced to slay the fatted calf for a son who was made involuntarily prodigal.

CultBrennan59 · 09-07-2009, 11:37 AM

maybe the raiders will cut him midway through the season as they did with DeAngelo Hall, we pick up Richard Seymour, and he plays DT next to haynesworth the rest of the year and does great!

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 09-07-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

maybe the raiders will cut him midway through the season as they did with DeAngelo Hall, we pick up Richard Seymour, and he plays DT next to haynesworth the rest of the year and does great!

Pipe dream out the ass. But nice thought

Dirtbag59 · 09-07-2009, 01:06 PM

It seems a lot of people think this is a stupid trade and on that I agree. However I don't think the problem is the actual amount of talent they got in exchange for their 1st round pick (8 sacks from a 3-4 DE spot is something else).

What I don't like is the fact that Richard Seymour is a winner with one year left on his contract playing in Oakland. Chances are that he's not going to want to play for them past 2009. I guess Oakland could franchise him but other then that I can't see why Seymour would stay in Oakland after this year.

SmootSmack · 09-08-2009, 10:59 PM

It's like the Pats are Lucy, and the Raiders are Charlie Brown

T.O.Killa · 09-09-2009, 12:21 AM

I think the Pats are going to be 8-8 this year. They went to far this time with the next man up thing. Plus, I still hate them for the ass whipping they gave us and Joe Gibbs.

skinsfan69 · 09-09-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I think the Pats are going to be 8-8 this year. They went to far this time with the next man up thing. Plus, I still hate them for the ass whipping they gave us and Joe Gibbs.

It's the NFL, not pee wee league.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-09-2009, 12:25 AM

Seymour has to be contemplating retirement. I would. hey you have 3 rings and lots of $$ nothing more needs to be done. I cant see why anyone would go to oakland. he has to feel like the Pats just kicked him in the fellas.

Dirtbag59 · 09-09-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Seymour has to be contemplating retirement. I would. hey you have 3 rings and lots of $$ nothing more needs to be done. I cant see why anyone would go to oakland. he has to feel like the Pats just kicked him in the fellas.

Well....we all know that black is slimming. Not sure about silver.

MTK · 09-09-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Seymour has to be contemplating retirement. I would. hey you have 3 rings and lots of $$ nothing more needs to be done. I cant see why anyone would go to oakland. he has to feel like the Pats just kicked him in the fellas.

I doubt retirement is a serious option. He's 29 and has plenty of quality seasons left. He would be leaving a lot of money on the table if he retired now.

Ruhskins · 09-09-2009, 12:39 AM

I wonder how many more seasons until Darth Hoody gets rid of Brady. I'm sure he's going to rob some poor sucker team blind when he feels that Brady has run his course.

PS: Am I the only one who feels that this move may have shut up V. Wilfork's demand for a new deal. I can see Darth Hoody saying to him "you better shut up or I'll ship your ass to Oakland with Seymour". LOL.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-09-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I wonder how many more seasons until Darth Hoody gets rid of Brady. I'm sure he's going to rob some poor sucker team blind when he feels that Brady has run his course.

PS: Am I the only one who feels that this move may have shut up V. Wilfork's demand for a new deal. I can see Darth Hoody saying to him "you better shut up or I'll ship your ass to Oakland with Seymour". LOL.

LOL This just in, NO pat player will ever hold out,drop a pass,miss a block,miss a tackle,complain about a contract or playing time EVER AGAIN.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-09-2009, 01:41 AM

In an amazing turn of events V. Wilfork has agreed to play for the league minimum until he retires.

GMScud · 09-09-2009, 02:31 AM

For the next two drafts, the Pats now have 7 picks in the first two rounds. That's more than any other team. They're an aging team on both sides of the ball, and they know it. Bruschi, Harrison, and Vrabel are all gone. Sammy Morris, Kevin Falk, and Fred Taylor are getting up there. Hell, even Randy Moss and Tom Brady are both 32. Plus they have 4 starting O-lineman 30 or older. Those 7 picks could go a long way in bolstering a strong youth movement of big time contributors.

The're pretty darn good right now, and they're setting themselves up to stay that way in the future.

bedlamVR · 09-09-2009, 06:42 AM

The problem is though they don't that well .

From 2008 draft :

Mayo is a good player for them but, Kevin O'Connell was a third round pick in 08 and was cut, Shawn Crable, Terrance Wheatly, have either just come off IR or just been placed on IR Wilhite and Matt Slater are burried deap on the depth chart

From 2007 Draft : Branden Merriwether was taken too high for his production and has really not had the impact you desire . No one else made the team from the remaining 8 picks . Okay they were day 2 picks but even the Skins have day 2 jems and depth to point to .

From the 2006 draft : Lawance Marooney - great change of pace back if he can stay healthy but never put up more than 1000 yards and never played an entire season . Other than that . Chad Jackson - Off the team (OTT) David Thomas (OTT) Garett Mills (OTT) Stephen Gostkowski - (Keeper but a kicker in the 4th round?) Ryan O'Callaghan (OTT) Mincey, Dan Stevenson (OUT OF THE LEAGUE) Le Kevin Smith (OTT) Willie Anderews (OTL)

2005 Draft : THeier best draft in recent years . Logan Mankins (G), Nick Kakzur (T) and James Saunders (S) and it would have also been Elis Hobbs - but they got three starters out of that draft that are still starters today .

Who knows the impact of the 2009 draft . The draft they picked up 6 2nd and 3rd round players. Brandon Tate and a couple of other are already on the IR lists .

Overall their drafting is average at best . And now Scott Pioli has gone it will be interesting to see how things pan out . I am starting to believe that Poli went before he was pushed ...

09-07-2009, 11:24 AM	#1
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? Maybe RS will be a no show,to the clown show.......? What if Richard Seymour doesn't show in Oakland? Posted by Mike Florio on September 7, 2009 10:11 AM ET A league source has raised an intriguing concept with us. It's established, via Peter King of SI.com, that former Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour is "angry" about the trade that sent him into football's literal and figurative Black Hole. A good friend of Seymour's told King on Sunday, "I would not be surprised if he doesn't report." We've heard the same sentiment. So the source posed a great question. What happens if Seymour doesn't show? It's not completely out of the question. Seymour held out not once but twice from the Patriots during his time there, and Seymour's agent is -- you guessed it -- Eugene Parker, who currently is embroiled in one of the nastiest rookie holdouts in recent memory, as the agent for 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree. So, if Seymour refuses to report to the Raiders, either because he doesn't want to play for the Raiders or because they're not offering him the kind of contract he wants, what happens? Because all trades hinge on the player showing up and passing a physical, Seymour wouldn't become a Raider unless he enters the building. Thus, it apparently would fall back to the Patriots to take action against Seymour aimed at coaxing him to honor the last year of his current contract. Under that contract, he's due to earn $3.685 million this year. That's more than $216,000 per game he'll lose if he doesn't accept the trade, in addition to any other potential fines that could be imposed. If he stays out past Week Ten his contract will toll for a year, keeping him from becoming an unrestricted free agent in what looks to be an uncapped year. But this situation can't linger for two months. At some point, the Raiders will reel in that first-round pick, and the Pats will be forced to slay the fatted calf for a son who was made involuntarily prodigal. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

09-07-2009, 11:37 AM	#2
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? maybe the raiders will cut him midway through the season as they did with DeAngelo Hall, we pick up Richard Seymour, and he plays DT next to haynesworth the rest of the year and does great!

09-07-2009, 01:06 PM	#4
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? It seems a lot of people think this is a stupid trade and on that I agree. However I don't think the problem is the actual amount of talent they got in exchange for their 1st round pick (8 sacks from a 3-4 DE spot is something else). What I don't like is the fact that Richard Seymour is a winner with one year left on his contract playing in Oakland. Chances are that he's not going to want to play for them past 2009. I guess Oakland could franchise him but other then that I can't see why Seymour would stay in Oakland after this year. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

09-08-2009, 10:59 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? It's like the Pats are Lucy, and the Raiders are Charlie Brown __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-09-2009, 12:21 AM	#6
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? I think the Pats are going to be 8-8 this year. They went to far this time with the next man up thing. Plus, I still hate them for the ass whipping they gave us and Joe Gibbs.

09-09-2009, 12:25 AM	#8
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? Seymour has to be contemplating retirement. I would. hey you have 3 rings and lots of $$ nothing more needs to be done. I cant see why anyone would go to oakland. he has to feel like the Pats just kicked him in the fellas. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-09-2009, 12:39 AM	#11
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? I wonder how many more seasons until Darth Hoody gets rid of Brady. I'm sure he's going to rob some poor sucker team blind when he feels that Brady has run his course. PS: Am I the only one who feels that this move may have shut up V. Wilfork's demand for a new deal. I can see Darth Hoody saying to him "you better shut up or I'll ship your ass to Oakland with Seymour". LOL. __________________ R.I.P. #21 Last edited by Ruhskins; 09-09-2009 at 12:54 AM.

09-09-2009, 01:41 AM	#13
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? In an amazing turn of events V. Wilfork has agreed to play for the league minimum until he retires. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-09-2009, 02:31 AM	#14
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? For the next two drafts, the Pats now have 7 picks in the first two rounds. That's more than any other team. They're an aging team on both sides of the ball, and they know it. Bruschi, Harrison, and Vrabel are all gone. Sammy Morris, Kevin Falk, and Fred Taylor are getting up there. Hell, even Randy Moss and Tom Brady are both 32. Plus they have 4 starting O-lineman 30 or older. Those 7 picks could go a long way in bolstering a strong youth movement of big time contributors. The're pretty darn good right now, and they're setting themselves up to stay that way in the future. __________________ Tardy

09-09-2009, 06:42 AM	#15
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Re: Raiders get Richard Seymour? The problem is though they don't that well . From 2008 draft : Mayo is a good player for them but, Kevin O'Connell was a third round pick in 08 and was cut, Shawn Crable, Terrance Wheatly, have either just come off IR or just been placed on IR Wilhite and Matt Slater are burried deap on the depth chart From 2007 Draft : Branden Merriwether was taken too high for his production and has really not had the impact you desire . No one else made the team from the remaining 8 picks . Okay they were day 2 picks but even the Skins have day 2 jems and depth to point to . From the 2006 draft : Lawance Marooney - great change of pace back if he can stay healthy but never put up more than 1000 yards and never played an entire season . Other than that . Chad Jackson - Off the team (OTT) David Thomas (OTT) Garett Mills (OTT) Stephen Gostkowski - (Keeper but a kicker in the 4th round?) Ryan O'Callaghan (OTT) Mincey, Dan Stevenson (OUT OF THE LEAGUE) Le Kevin Smith (OTT) Willie Anderews (OTL) 2005 Draft : THeier best draft in recent years . Logan Mankins (G), Nick Kakzur (T) and James Saunders (S) and it would have also been Elis Hobbs - but they got three starters out of that draft that are still starters today . Who knows the impact of the 2009 draft . The draft they picked up 6 2nd and 3rd round players. Brandon Tate and a couple of other are already on the IR lists . Overall their drafting is average at best . And now Scott Pioli has gone it will be interesting to see how things pan out . I am starting to believe that Poli went before he was pushed ...

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