Offense = Disappointment

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I wonder if Zorn is trying to adapt too much to the players he has--CP, in particular. Yes, we've got CP and Buges, but maybe we should throw first to set up the run?

And there is something to JC in the shotgun and hurry-up. He was quick and decisive there--yes, the gints were in prevent, but he didn't hesitate.

I still feel, either way, that we'll look better next week and everyone will say, Oh, Zorn opened it up, JC found some skill, etc. etc. The gints are good at defense. They make you look bad. Not an excuse, just a fact. Good teams find a way to win anyway. We didn't. But I'm not sure a total tear-down is in order.

Yeah I think Jason Campbell looks good in the shotgun. He always looks good in the hurry up. So why aren't we incorporating this more. I think the problem is he isn't chanign the plans to utilize the players he has. Another thing people have to keep in mind. He came from the AFC West. He needs to get it in his head. This is the NFC Beast. Smash mouth football. He needs to run the ball down their throat and atleast take one shot down the field each quarter. Also I have to scream this. WTF is up with our time management. We did this a few times last year. Like we just give up and don't have a sense of urgency. The coaching really sucks man. I hope Zorn steps up. Because there are high school coaches that can call better plays and game manage better than this.

[insideman]

When we get a coach that is worth a crap then some of these issues might, and I said might, be fixed. But not until then. Synder created this monster of a non not knowing how to coach coaching staff.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by insideman

When we get a coach that is worth a crap then some of these issues might, and I said might, be fixed. But not until then. Synder created this monster of a non not knowing how to coach coaching staff.

Who in the hell wants to coach a team that has a high coach turnover rating. You will not get a good veteran coach unless you going to over pay him to come here. Keep Zorn and give him 3 years to improve this team then talk about firing him.

[Hog1]

If this game were indicative (which is is not) of the entire season, the following would be true:
Our line is not stout enough for an effective running game left, and non-exisitent to the right.
JC is making some silly mistakes-see failure to step up leading to strip and subseguent G- score.
O-line cannot give adequate protection for JC.
Recievers are not getting open or JC fals to see them
REALLY UNimaginative play calling
Blessfully.........this will not be the case next week
There's not place like home, there's no place like home.........

[wilsowilso]

There is one area of the offense that gets a straight F grade on the day.

I'm still in shock looking at the numbers.

The passing game to the outside was quite literally non existent today.

It's laughable that we did that. It's clown shoes cowardly football. I just don't know yet if it was JC or JZ who didn't have the balls to throw outside.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

There is one area of the offense that gets a straight F grade on the day.

I'm still in shock looking at the numbers.

The passing game to the outside was quite literally non existent today.

It's laughable that we did that. It's clown shoes cowardly football. I just don't know yet if it was JC or JZ who didn't have the balls to throw outside.

U mean our top two receivers who combined for 12 yeards on three catches?

[Ruhskins]

Here's my beef with the offense....

- Trick plays against a top defense = bad idea.

- I could be wrong but I got the sense that JC was looking for the deep ball wayyy too much (hence the Osi strip)

- Cooley fumbled once (recovered out of bounds) and almost fumbled a second time, WTF?

- When playing a top defense, can JC use his feet a bit better in the pocket and maybe look to the run a bit more?

- The accidental screen to Betts looked great, I think they should look into doing a bit more of those against aggressive blitzing defenses.

ARE looked great in the slot, but he shouldn't be the only one catching the ball. Cooley needs to stop f'ing fumbling, and our running game needs to get better.

[The Goat]

I'm curious what ya'll think of this idea. What if Zorn went "sink or swim" w/ Kelly and Thomas at #1 and #2 WR?

Moss doesn't look like a legit #1 WR anymore (some would argue he never did) and ultimately we're not gonna achieve jack unless these two guys actually produce. Also Moss is responsible for JC's INT...typical Moss he just gives up part of the time as he did in GB two years ago. I would honestly like to see Moss benched next week and Zorn start Kelley and Thomas and play them the entire game. Moss can take turns in the slot w/ ARL.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm curious what ya'll think of this idea. What if Zorn went "sink or swim" w/ Kelly and Thomas at #1 and #2 WR?

Moss doesn't look like a legit #1 WR anymore (some would argue he never did) and ultimately we're not gonna achieve jack unless these two guys actually produce. Also Moss is responsible for JC's INT...typical Moss he just gives up part of the time as he did in GB two years ago. I would honestly like to see Moss benched next week and Zorn start Kelley and Thomas and play them the entire game. Moss can take turns in the slot w/ ARL.

I don't think I'd criticize him for this. I personally don't think Thomas can play, but if he's going to get a shot at the expense of someone that isn't Malcolm Kelly, it's probably worth the oppertunity cost.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think I'd criticize him for this. I personally don't think Thomas can play, but if he's going to get a shot at the expense of someone that isn't Malcolm Kelly, it's probably worth the oppertunity cost.

I would rather try that crazy idea with Marko Mitchell over Devin Thomas.

Santana is still a fine player, but damn did he have a pitiful game today.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I would rather try that crazy idea with Marko Mitchell over Devin Thomas.

Santana is still a fine player, but damn did he have a pitiful game today.

Here's reason #1523 why I hate these one player hate-threads (when they are about players that certain people just hate no matter what)...there's a thread about how terrible D. Hall was....and yes we gave him money and he sucked it up against a young receiver. But, as I said, you lose as a team, and if you're going to bitch and whine about D. Hall then let's also talk bout Santana Moss....he's our #1 receiver, he's supposed to be one of our best offensive weapons...instead he almost cost the team a terrible personal foul penalty, a pass was picked in front of him, and he was basically a non-factor.

That said, I say hell let's throw the young wideouts to the fire if the likes of Santana are not going to get their act together.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I would rather try that crazy idea with Marko Mitchell over Devin Thomas.

Santana is still a fine player, but damn did he have a pitiful game today.

We wont know unless they get on the field. The Raiders had 2 rookies WR starting against the Chargers. Moss in the slot would be nice and bring DT and Kelly on the outside. ARE did make some plays. S. Moss got punked by Jason Webster and he covered him mostly 1on1. Webster was in his head and his jock when he ran a route. Moss also got his ass kicked when his helmet got knocked off. Nice from a veteran WR. way to go S. Moss and your United Way commerical. Way to be a role model.

[redskinem]

Is it just only me or what, Portis is tip toeing like Stephen Davis use to do . I watched other backs in the league and they run with a purpose, time for his ass to go to.

[number21isabadman]

On a lighter note.This just in, 4 picks by the supposedly next great franchise qb in chicago, jay aka "I think im the next farve" cutler. Thank god chicago outbid us for him, they can keep him.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by number21isabadman

On a lighter note.This just in, 4 picks by the supposedly next great franchise qb in chicago, jay aka "I think im the next farve" cutler. Thank god chicago outbid us for him, they can keep him.

The offense needs to play with more swagger. Its like we are just going through the motions. But I haven't seen a game this bad as far as efficiency goes in a while. Our team seems like they are not motivated.