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Old 09-15-2009, 09:58 AM   #1
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Our passing attack is entirely too reliant on Cooley. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but until Kelly, Thomas, and Davis are included in the offensive game plan, expect to see 17 points or less per game. Campbell needs to step up his game big-time, or he can look forward to a career arc similar to Patrick Ramsey's.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:27 PM   #2
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Our passing attack is entirely too reliant on Cooley. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but until Kelly, Thomas, and Davis are included in the offensive game plan, expect to see 17 points or less per game. Campbell needs to step up his game big-time, or he can look forward to a career arc similar to Patrick Ramsey's.
Good point. I've been saying that for awhile. People point to Cooley's 83 receptions last year. While that's good for Cooley, it's not necessarily good for the offense.

Campbell needs to step up his game, but I would also add that Kelly, Thomas, Davis and Santana Moss need to get open on a regular basis.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:07 AM   #3
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Give credit to the Giants for taking Moss away. I'm not buying this talk that Moss wasn't playing hard or gave up. Until other guys step up as legit threats teams are going to key on Moss. ARE and Cooley contributed which was great of course, but someone else on the outside needs to step up. Kelly and Thomas I'm looking at you guys.
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Give credit to the Giants for taking Moss away. I'm not buying this talk that Moss wasn't playing hard or gave up. Until other guys step up as legit threats teams are going to key on Moss. ARE and Cooley contributed which was great of course, but someone else on the outside needs to step up. Kelly and Thomas I'm looking at you guys.
Yeah. Webster is a shutdown corner at this point. The interception, while it never should have been thrown, was a fantastic play by Webster. It was a better play, IMO, than Polamalu's INT in the Steelers-Titans game.

The passing game was fully functional throwing to the mismatches that Cooley and Randle El had all game. Unfortunately, we just didn't do enough with it.
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Yeah. Webster is a shutdown corner at this point. The interception, while it never should have been thrown, was a fantastic play by Webster. It was a better play, IMO, than Polamalu's INT in the Steelers-Titans game.

The passing game was fully functional throwing to the mismatches that Cooley and Randle El had all game. Unfortunately, we just didn't do enough with it.
Speaking of the INT, That play resulted in something I have never witnessed in all the years I've been watching professional football. The QB starts to run crosses the LOS, throw's an illegal foreward pass that is intercepted. In sixty yrs. of watching pro. football I've never seen that.

I do agree with Matty, other receivers other than Moss have to step-up and begin to make a serious contribution to the offense. Both Thomas and Kelly were virtually invisible on Sunday, and no Davis either. It's time for Zorn to give these guys the opportunity to make some plays. They can't do anything if he won't put them in the game.
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Speaking of the INT, That play resulted in something I have never witnessed in all the years I've been watching professional football. The QB starts to run crosses the LOS, throw's an illegal foreward pass that is intercepted. In sixty yrs. of watching pro. football I've never seen that.

I do agree with Matty, other receivers other than Moss have to step-up and begin to make a serious contribution to the offense. Both Thomas and Kelly were virtually invisible on Sunday, and no Davis either. It's time for Zorn to give these guys the opportunity to make some plays. They can't do anything if he won't put them in the game.
You can do a search on my posts and see that I said I was "seriously pumped" about the emergence of Kelly and Thomas during the offseason. I bought into the hype about those guys.

But if there was ever a time when we needed them to step up and divert some attention away from Santana Moss, it was Sunday. You have to give the rookies the benefit of the doubt in year one. But it's year two now. These guys need to man up and show us why they were highly touted coming out of college.

Until then, they are proving the critics of Vinny Cerrato's talent evaluation exactly right.
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You can do a search on my posts and see that I said I was "seriously pumped" about the emergence of Kelly and Thomas during the offseason. I bought into the hype about those guys.

But if there was ever a time when we needed them to step up and divert some attention away from Santana Moss, it was Sunday. You have to give the rookies the benefit of the doubt in year one. But it's year two now. These guys need to man up and show us why they were highly touted coming out of college.

Until then, they are proving the critics of Vinny Cerrato's talent evaluation exactly right.
Now, when the ball was thrown at receivers who were not Santana Moss, we completed more than 80% of our passes for better than 9 yards an attempt.

Perhaps there wasn't a problem with Kelly or Thomas in this game, but simply that our two interior receivers were so wide open most of the game that there was no reason to go past them in the progression. The statistics certainly support this to be the case.

The only negative plays in the passing game happened when the ball went to Moss, who just got embarrassed in his one-on-one matchup with Webster. If there's any part of the passing game that needs to step it up, it starts and ends with him. Kelly did fine.
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You can do a search on my posts and see that I said I was "seriously pumped" about the emergence of Kelly and Thomas during the offseason. I bought into the hype about those guys.

But if there was ever a time when we needed them to step up and divert some attention away from Santana Moss, it was Sunday. You have to give the rookies the benefit of the doubt in year one. But it's year two now. These guys need to man up and show us why they were highly touted coming out of college.

Until then, they are proving the critics of Vinny Cerrato's talent evaluation exactly right.
I agree, all three of those guys have to demonstrate they're worthy of their draft position. While none of them played very much last year for various reasons, they had the opportunity to observe and learn, going into their second year they should be producing. Sometimes I think Zorn may be overcoaching these guys and expecting them to be perfect. These guys need to play, and it's up to the coaches to find the best way to use them and put them in positions where they can make a contribution.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:30 AM   #9
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Im not making excuses,they lost to a super bowl winning team a few years back,they need to get more descisive at the QB position.Every team knows thats how you stop our offense is to get the QB,make him beat you.Our offense line played very well against one,if not the best,of the nfl.What bothers me the most is the play of Deangelo Hall,his non-aggressive tackling.He needs to step up and show why he was a number one pick.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:58 AM   #10
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yeah get rid of the GM,head coach and the bum at quarterback and go get a good GM or bring in shannahan or cowher to be both...
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yeah get rid of the GM,head coach and the bum at quarterback and go get a good GM or bring in shannahan or cowher to be both...
So you want change just for the sake of change then. Because Shanahan has not shown that he can be both a successful coach and GM when he's been given the opportunity. And Cowher has never even attempted it
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:47 PM   #12
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yeah get rid of the GM,head coach and the bum at quarterback and go get a good GM or bring in shannahan or cowher to be both...
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:34 PM   #13
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We could release JC and cut our losses, put in Collins (that once lead us to the playoffs), and sign Chase Daniel as our back up.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:39 PM   #14
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We could release JC and cut our losses, put in Collins (that once lead us to the playoffs), and sign Chase Daniel as our back up.
I wish no harm to no one but best thing is Campbell to get hurt. Last time we made playoffs he got hurt. Collins gave us a ride to Seattle... Zorn has no confidence in him at the goal line he picks a running play..
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I wish no harm to no one but best thing is Campbell to get hurt. Last time we made playoffs he got hurt. Collins gave us a ride to Seattle... Zorn has no confidence in him at the goal line he picks a running play..
Dude that was 2 years ago. We dont need fans like you want our players to get hurt WTF is that crap. Please go learn about the game of football player.
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