Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love!

MTK · 10-23-2009, 08:15 AM

He seems like a great guy but he's simply not getting it done. He's in over his head and while it's not all his fault, I don't like the idea of completely absolving him and placing all the blame on Snyder and Cerrato.

mredskins · 10-23-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Let's face it. There probably isn't a coach in the NFL right now who could stand up to the pressure and the situation that Jim Zorn is in currently. Zorn is a great guy. A great Christian guy who is well respected around the league, at least as a former QB and a QB coach. He is in a no win situation. Has a bingo caller calling plays for goodness sake! He was in over his head as soon as he was hired as head coach.

I still think Jim Zorn is going to be a great coach in the league when it comes time and when he is in the right situation. This is obviously not the right situation for any coach. Despite the collapse the team is in (and while I think Zorn shoulders blame, he is not the only reason by far) I have to give an hats off to Zorn for at least doing everything he possibly can. I really hate it for the guy. I know there are plenty on here who will say good riddance and rightfully so. But unlike Steve Spurrier, Zorn is giving it his all. Although I do feel like he is doing nothing more than banging his head against a brick wall, at least he is giving it to Snyder by not quitting. (I just hope they don't force him to quit after the Eagles game. Fire him if you must, but pay the man for trying to ruin his coaching career.)

Zorn will always be a guy that I root for. He has my respect win or lose. Ultimately, I want what is best for this team first, but I hope Zorn get another chance soon.

What is the difference between a good guy and a good Christain guy? Don't understand why religon had to come into play.

BrunellMVP? · 10-23-2009, 08:21 AM

good man with integrity, just in way over his head (he's panicky on the sidelines). Unfortunately, nobody could win with this team.

CRedskinsRule · 10-23-2009, 08:51 AM

Is it love? or is it the kiss of death?
Friday, October 23: Vinny Cerrato Endorses Jim Zorn

SBXVII · 10-23-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Is it love? or is it the kiss of death?
Friday, October 23: Vinny Cerrato Endorses Jim Zorn

VC Endorses Zorn? funny. LOL.....why did he take his play calling abilities if he thinks Zorn should remain for now and the future. LOL>

joethiesmanfan · 10-23-2009, 09:44 AM

At the end of the 6-2 run, the Pittsburgh game. I knew he was over thinking. Pittsburgh overloaded one side of the line of scrimmage. 4 weeks later teams were still overloading one side of the line of scrimmage. Against Baltimore we completed a wide receiver screen to Moss for over 50 yards. After that play, no other team treid that strategy. Now other coaches learned from that one play, but it seems Jim is not up to snuff when it comes to strategy. How can you be confused by a defensive strategy for a whole month? Especially when the answer is a play your team is familliar running. Over thinking, why take teh WR screen out the game plan it's there to dictate formations and coverages to the defense. You can't run an NFL offense using the connect the dot method.

CrustyRedskin · 10-23-2009, 10:32 AM

We havnt used the slip screen game since Gibbs 06 our playoff run. Its crazy, we used to split Cooley out and throw him some slip screens.

KLHJ2 · 10-23-2009, 10:41 AM

I am not going to say that I do not think that Zorn has not made some mistakes, but I do not believe that he should have ever been put on the hot seat like this. He is going through some growing pains of being a head coach in the NFL. Everyone does unless you just inherit a good football team. This guy's shot at what could have been a promising head coaching career is now in jeapordy because of the impatience of an unrealistic fan base and a poor organizational operations structure.

Whatever, it is what it is and I cannot change it. I just think that it is shitty.

SBXVII · 10-23-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Let's face it. There probably isn't a coach in the NFL right now who could stand up to the pressure and the situation that Jim Zorn is in currently. Zorn is a great guy. A great Christian guy who is well respected around the league, at least as a former QB and a QB coach. He is in a no win situation. Has a bingo caller calling plays for goodness sake! He was in over his head as soon as he was hired as head coach.

I still think Jim Zorn is going to be a great coach in the league when it comes time and when he is in the right situation. This is obviously not the right situation for any coach. Despite the collapse the team is in (and while I think Zorn shoulders blame, he is not the only reason by far) I have to give an hats off to Zorn for at least doing everything he possibly can. I really hate it for the guy. I know there are plenty on here who will say good riddance and rightfully so. But unlike Steve Spurrier, Zorn is giving it his all. Although I do feel like he is doing nothing more than banging his head against a brick wall, at least he is giving it to Snyder by not quitting. (I just hope they don't force him to quit after the Eagles game. Fire him if you must, but pay the man for trying to ruin his coaching career.)

Zorn will always be a guy that I root for. He has my respect win or lose. Ultimately, I want what is best for this team first, but I hope Zorn get another chance soon.

Nope, no love. Hope he's gone at seasons end.

SmootSmack · 10-23-2009, 12:04 PM

We're not turning this thread into a thread about good Christians or bad Christians

But for now, let's all hold hands and sing some...

skinsguy · 10-23-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We're not turning this thread into a thread about good Christians or bad Christians

But for now, let's all hold hands and sing some...

LOL! I actually saw them in concert a few weeks ago!

SFREDSKIN · 10-23-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

LOL! I actually saw them in concert a few weeks ago!

That song reminds me of this:

YouTube - Boogie Nights: Drug Deal Gone Bad Scene

skinsguy · 10-23-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

That song reminds me of this:

YouTube - Boogie Nights: Drug Deal Gone Bad Scene

I haven't seen that movie in a long time!

redsk1 · 10-23-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

That song reminds me of this:

YouTube - Boogie Nights: Drug Deal Gone Bad Scene

One of the best scenes ever. Maybe not ever, but pretty good. Nice one.

KLHJ2 · 10-23-2009, 12:06 PM

See, that's why I became an athiest.

10-23-2009, 08:15 AM	#1
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10-23-2009, 08:21 AM	#3
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10-23-2009, 08:51 AM	#4
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10-23-2009, 09:44 AM	#6
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love! At the end of the 6-2 run, the Pittsburgh game. I knew he was over thinking. Pittsburgh overloaded one side of the line of scrimmage. 4 weeks later teams were still overloading one side of the line of scrimmage. Against Baltimore we completed a wide receiver screen to Moss for over 50 yards. After that play, no other team treid that strategy. Now other coaches learned from that one play, but it seems Jim is not up to snuff when it comes to strategy. How can you be confused by a defensive strategy for a whole month? Especially when the answer is a play your team is familliar running. Over thinking, why take teh WR screen out the game plan it's there to dictate formations and coverages to the defense. You can't run an NFL offense using the connect the dot method.

10-23-2009, 10:32 AM	#7
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,062	Re: Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love! We havnt used the slip screen game since Gibbs 06 our playoff run. Its crazy, we used to split Cooley out and throw him some slip screens.

10-23-2009, 10:41 AM	#8
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	Re: Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love! I am not going to say that I do not think that Zorn has not made some mistakes, but I do not believe that he should have ever been put on the hot seat like this. He is going through some growing pains of being a head coach in the NFL. Everyone does unless you just inherit a good football team. This guy's shot at what could have been a promising head coaching career is now in jeapordy because of the impatience of an unrealistic fan base and a poor organizational operations structure. Whatever, it is what it is and I cannot change it. I just think that it is shitty.

10-23-2009, 12:04 PM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love! We're not turning this thread into a thread about good Christians or bad Christians But for now, let's all hold hands and sing some... __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-23-2009, 12:06 PM	#15
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	Re: Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love! See, that's why I became an athiest.

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