At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep?

Big C · 12-13-2009, 10:06 PM

we've shown we can play against top teams without portis or betts, i think we can keep both, and either keep betts or portis, or dump both for a new guy.

GMScud · 12-13-2009, 10:31 PM

Ganther = Ryan Grant. I said it in another thread, another teams trash is our treasure. The Titans cast off could be a real contributor for us moving forward.

I say keep both Rock and Ganther as of right now. Our RB sitch is up in the air big time. Betts is coming off very serious knee surgery, Portis' health and contract are huge issues, and we still don't know if there will be a new CBA moving into next year.

I've gotta think with his mileage, injuries, and huge cap numbers, an uncapped year will mean the end of Clinton's career as a Redskin. Can't say I'd bat an eye at his departure.

30gut · 12-13-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Ganther has played hard since joining the team but Rock has contributed as well. Who do you keep?

Rock

MTK · 12-13-2009, 10:45 PM

Keep them both.

pg86 · 12-13-2009, 10:57 PM

From todays live performance I keep both...and I drop portis and maybe betts after preseason

Dirtbag59 · 12-14-2009, 12:56 AM

Neither, Toby FTW!!!!!1!!!

Defensewins · 12-14-2009, 01:16 AM

Easy. You keep both, along with Mason, Aldridge and Fb's Sellers and Williams. Plus add in the high drafted RB this spring, snyderatto has never seen a offensive skill position player they did not want to draft, forgetting all about OL again.

The really interesting question and better thread title:
Portis and Betts have a future with Redskins.?.?
The other one is Randy Thomas, the guy can not stay healthy.

Skins4L · 12-14-2009, 03:43 AM

I think both.

Mason hasnt done much with his opportunities and his window is small.

Portis (our VET), Ganther / ROOKIE in a balanced rotation should keep things fresh.
Rock could sit 4th on the chart. Plus He can still return..

SolidSnake84 · 12-14-2009, 08:06 AM

I think Rock became expendable with the emergence of Ganther. Seriously...Rock is what 31? He would be good to keep as a backup but not if that means letting another talented back go.

Portis is likely finished. The way the other guys have been playing should prove that. Keep Ganther and draft a young back with the draft....that way we are set in the backfield...

SBXVII · 12-14-2009, 08:32 AM

Just to point out...for all you Rock fans. In the past Rock has not done anything at RB. Now I know some will say "Oh thats because he was not given a chance" but keep in mind he was not given a chance for a reason. All his chances have come in preseason where he has done diddly against 2nd stringers. I think I labled him the TTB2. He dances East/West instead of North/South. Now don't get me wrong, I to have paid him a few good compliments. When Portis was injured the next game when "both" he and Betts were in the plays together he knocked off some good runs. Then Betts got hurt and we relied on Rock to carry the load. That game if I'm not mistaken Ganther had more yard and I think JC was either first or 2nd in run yards. Rock on the field by himself = disaster. Plus he's close to 30 yrs old. Time to turn the page on all 3 of our RB's. Time to get youth, speed, and health. Also Thomas has filled in nicely as a KR. Rock is replaceable.

In years past I have probably been Mason's biggest advocate. I now consede. Although I like him I have not seen enough of him for a reason and even he failed to get a lot of yards yesterday. My only reason for keeping him is because he is similar to Ganther size wise and running style, he just isn't getting it done like Ganther. Now if Mason proves me wrong in these last few games then keep him.

Lest you all forget we also picked up Alridge. Shanahan spoke highly of him. Although he keeps getting cut and brought back I get the feeling the team was asked to pick him up for the future of the team....possibly by Shanahan. Just my feeling.

Also Portis is old and now injury prone and quite possibly out due to career ending injury but I don't see how we could trade him due to those injuries or trade away his big contract. Now if next year is an uncapped year then I say we simply cut bait or pay the majority of his contract off and resign to a better deal then look to trade him. If I hear correctly we can't cut him until after June 1st. If we do it prior he costs us more if after I think it was 6 mill?

Betts is the only one out of the old batch that I would keep, but with his injury who knows if he will be the same ground pounder he has been.

Obviously keep Ganther
If Mason is coachable keep him if not cut him pick up someone else in the draft
Keep Alridge as our scat back. Can we bring back Dorsey also? I would love to see us play a team and have both in the back field and prior to running the play split them both out on either side as WR's. I think the other team would have a melt down. LOL.

MTK · 12-14-2009, 08:35 AM

Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again.

SBXVII · 12-14-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again.

Don't look at me....I never stopped. Even after his nice game "with" Betts a few games ago I said don't get too high on him. He sucks by himself.

But if we are looking towards to future of this team and trying to get younger "everywhere" then all 3 RB's need to go. I said that last year as well although I also said Mason was our man. LOL.

skinsfan69 · 12-14-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Don't look at me....I never stopped. Even after his nice game "with" Betts a few games ago I said don't get too high on him. He sucks by himself.

But if we are looking towards to future of this team and trying to get younger "everywhere" then all 3 RB's need to go. I said that last year as well although I also said Mason was our man. LOL.

i'm all for getting younger in certain areas but you need solid vets on the team. you can't win with all young guys.

ashvirtually · 12-14-2009, 11:58 AM

Why can't we keep both? Why give up either?

skinsfan69 · 12-14-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again.

I just don't understand it. The guy has ran the ball very well and simply doesn't get any respect. The coaches shit on him and he doesn't deserve it.

12-13-2009, 10:06 PM	#1
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? we've shown we can play against top teams without portis or betts, i think we can keep both, and either keep betts or portis, or dump both for a new guy. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

12-13-2009, 10:31 PM	#2
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Ganther = Ryan Grant. I said it in another thread, another teams trash is our treasure. The Titans cast off could be a real contributor for us moving forward. I say keep both Rock and Ganther as of right now. Our RB sitch is up in the air big time. Betts is coming off very serious knee surgery, Portis' health and contract are huge issues, and we still don't know if there will be a new CBA moving into next year. I've gotta think with his mileage, injuries, and huge cap numbers, an uncapped year will mean the end of Clinton's career as a Redskin. Can't say I'd bat an eye at his departure. __________________ Tardy

12-13-2009, 10:45 PM	#4
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12-13-2009, 10:57 PM	#5
pg86 No new threads for you Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,959	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? From todays live performance I keep both...and I drop portis and maybe betts after preseason

12-14-2009, 12:56 AM	#6
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Neither, Toby FTW!!!!!1!!! __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

12-14-2009, 01:16 AM	#7
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,765	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Easy. You keep both, along with Mason, Aldridge and Fb's Sellers and Williams. Plus add in the high drafted RB this spring, snyderatto has never seen a offensive skill position player they did not want to draft, forgetting all about OL again. The really interesting question and better thread title: Portis and Betts have a future with Redskins.?.? The other one is Randy Thomas, the guy can not stay healthy.

12-14-2009, 03:43 AM	#8
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I think both. Mason hasnt done much with his opportunities and his window is small. Portis (our VET), Ganther / ROOKIE in a balanced rotation should keep things fresh. Rock could sit 4th on the chart. Plus He can still return.. __________________ ALL HAIL

12-14-2009, 08:06 AM	#9
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,953	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I think Rock became expendable with the emergence of Ganther. Seriously...Rock is what 31? He would be good to keep as a backup but not if that means letting another talented back go. Portis is likely finished. The way the other guys have been playing should prove that. Keep Ganther and draft a young back with the draft....that way we are set in the backfield... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

12-14-2009, 08:32 AM	#10
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Just to point out...for all you Rock fans. In the past Rock has not done anything at RB. Now I know some will say "Oh thats because he was not given a chance" but keep in mind he was not given a chance for a reason. All his chances have come in preseason where he has done diddly against 2nd stringers. I think I labled him the TTB2. He dances East/West instead of North/South. Now don't get me wrong, I to have paid him a few good compliments. When Portis was injured the next game when "both" he and Betts were in the plays together he knocked off some good runs. Then Betts got hurt and we relied on Rock to carry the load. That game if I'm not mistaken Ganther had more yard and I think JC was either first or 2nd in run yards. Rock on the field by himself = disaster. Plus he's close to 30 yrs old. Time to turn the page on all 3 of our RB's. Time to get youth, speed, and health. Also Thomas has filled in nicely as a KR. Rock is replaceable. In years past I have probably been Mason's biggest advocate. I now consede. Although I like him I have not seen enough of him for a reason and even he failed to get a lot of yards yesterday. My only reason for keeping him is because he is similar to Ganther size wise and running style, he just isn't getting it done like Ganther. Now if Mason proves me wrong in these last few games then keep him. Lest you all forget we also picked up Alridge. Shanahan spoke highly of him. Although he keeps getting cut and brought back I get the feeling the team was asked to pick him up for the future of the team....possibly by Shanahan. Just my feeling. Also Portis is old and now injury prone and quite possibly out due to career ending injury but I don't see how we could trade him due to those injuries or trade away his big contract. Now if next year is an uncapped year then I say we simply cut bait or pay the majority of his contract off and resign to a better deal then look to trade him. If I hear correctly we can't cut him until after June 1st. If we do it prior he costs us more if after I think it was 6 mill? Betts is the only one out of the old batch that I would keep, but with his injury who knows if he will be the same ground pounder he has been. Obviously keep Ganther If Mason is coachable keep him if not cut him pick up someone else in the draft Keep Alridge as our scat back. Can we bring back Dorsey also? I would love to see us play a team and have both in the back field and prior to running the play split them both out on either side as WR's. I think the other team would have a melt down. LOL.

12-14-2009, 08:35 AM	#11
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12-14-2009, 11:58 AM	#14
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