What if Fred started 16 games?

GridIron26 · 12-22-2009, 05:45 PM

What if we start creating two set of TEs plays? We have two talented TEs, we just need to get creative w/ plays.. LBs could not over both Cooley and Davis; we can start using rushing plays whole lot more, it would become easier to use Cooley and Davis at same time.. This would set up nice play action plays, only if the offense coordinator (or head coach) knows when to use it..

Why would we want to trade away our best weapon, Cooley? If it wasn't for him, our offense would have been whole lot worse.. Now then, Davis is nice addition.. Redskins FO knew that we were going to draft a talented TE when we already have Cooley.. We should have prepared for it but we weren't..

44Deezel · 12-22-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

What if we start creating two set of TEs plays? We have two talented TEs, we just need to get creative w/ plays.. LBs could not over both Cooley and Davis; we can start using rushing plays whole lot more, it would become easier to use Cooley and Davis at same time.. This would set up nice play action plays, only if the offense coordinator (or head coach) knows when to use it..

Why would we want to trade away our best weapon, Cooley? If it wasn't for him, our offense would have been whole lot worse.. Now then, Davis is nice addition.. Redskins FO knew that we were going to draft a talented TE when we already have Cooley.. We should have prepared for it but we weren't..

The Offense sucked when Cooley was playing, so he can't be THAT important.

GridIron26 · 12-22-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The Offense sucked when Cooley was playing, so he can't be THAT important.

The offense this year sucks, yes.. But in Cooley's whole career (except for this year and maybe rookie year), he's been very productive for us.. He always makes 3rd downs catches.. Can you really imagine our offense without Cooley in it in last few years? If it wasn't for Cooley, either Moss or Portis would be our "superstar" on offense.. And neither of those players would be #1 on other many teams..

SouperMeister · 12-22-2009, 06:27 PM

Cooley and Davis on the field together will be sick next year. If we can only bolster the O-line, I'm still optimistic that our offense will make huge strides with Cooley and Davis creating matchup problems every week.

skinsfaninok · 12-22-2009, 07:00 PM

^^ well I agree a little bit, cooley is a very good plAyer, but just like Dallas two te's doesn't work in the NFL.. I think Bennett is a stud in the making as well and Dallas will trade him also. Getting back to 86 this guy could become our version of Antonio gates.. With shanny coming in he could use Davis like he did Shannon sharpe.

rbanerjee23 · 12-22-2009, 07:05 PM

Yeah, who would have thought that with all the talk about Thomas and Kelly stepping up, it would be Fred Davis to show up and take this team by storm

skinsfaninok · 12-22-2009, 07:06 PM

^^ lol players and coaches are completly different. Davis is legit we all knew zorn would be a failure. I hope we keep both but that's prob not gonna happen

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 12-22-2009, 09:06 PM

Fred, dude you are a man. To think, he had so much trouble in his freshman year here. Now the dude has made some of us want to get rid of Cooley. It's amazing how the kid has transformed all our perceptions of him in a few weeks. Fred is worth the second round pick as well as Thomas, but the jury is still out on MK.

ChickenMonkey · 12-22-2009, 09:24 PM

Im a real Chris Cooley fan, but we need extra picks to use on the OL...Cooley would easily fetch a 2nd rounder....An extra 2nd rounder would essentially let us draft a 1st round QB, 2nd round OT & 2nd round OT....

44Deezel · 12-22-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

This guy has only started 8 GAMES! And has 40 catches and 6 TD'S... If he started 16 games for us this year he would easily have 10 TD'S and around 80 REC. I Love COOLEY but I think this kid is going to be even better. IMO he would have been a Pro Bowler if started all year, this is why many ppl had him a first round selection in 08. O and 4 straight games with a REC TD, when is the last time that's happen for us?

Fred Davis

Assuming all else was equal, why the hell would you keep Cooley? Jersey sales? Sentimental reasons? Makes no sense. Would the perennially elite teams even think twice about this? This is the ultimate no-brainer. Davis is younger. End of discussion.

Who was the last team to win the Super Bowl BECAUSE they had 2 good, high-paid pass catching TEs. Trade Cooley and move on.

GridIron26 · 12-22-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who was the last team to win the Super Bowl BECAUSE they had 2 good, high-paid pass catching TEs. Trade Cooley and move on.

Who the hell cares if there isn't any team that has utilized two good TEs? No team has ever utilized wildcat formations until Dolphins brought it back last year.. We can be the first team to utilize TEs plays; this would open up our running game..

Perhaps you are misinformed; Cooley is making big bucks, but Davis is not.. Davis is playing on 2nd rounder rookie salary, which is not big bucks compared to Randle El or Portis or Moss, which the players are not worth the money..

Pocket$ $traight · 12-22-2009, 10:39 PM

Doing some research Davis basically had the same 40 time as Malcolm Kelly. I honestly think that Davis creates mismatches enough that they should do what USC did and make him the #1 receiver. Line him up outside, line him up in the slots, run slants etc. This guy is a freak of nature.

Shanny knows what to do with a tight end. Say hello to Shannon Sharpe part 2...

MTK · 12-22-2009, 11:34 PM

So if FD started 16 games he would put up... Cooley numbers?

It's funny how quickly we cast guys aside.

skinsfaninok · 12-23-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

So if FD started 16 games he would put up... Cooley numbers?

It's funny how quickly we cast guys aside.

I still think Davis is more explosive and has a HUGE upside.. I love Cooley don't get me wrong but I would rather see CC go instead of 86..

tryfuhl · 12-23-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

So if FD started 16 games he would put up... Cooley numbers?

It's funny how quickly we cast guys aside.

I think that he could and that's not discounting Cooley.. just what we have to work with and the talents that Davis possesses. I'm impressed when Cooley breaks a tackle; I was there when he abused Carolina for his longest TD/reception ever. I also watched when FD went along the sideline and broke about 4 tackles too. Cooley though is my favorite player, I don't want to see him in another uniform, but if you decide that you can only operate with one very operational TE you obviously do have a choice on your hands, it's not cut and dry unless you're not watching imo

12-22-2009, 06:27 PM	#4
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? Cooley and Davis on the field together will be sick next year. If we can only bolster the O-line, I'm still optimistic that our offense will make huge strides with Cooley and Davis creating matchup problems every week.

12-22-2009, 07:00 PM	#5
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,177	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? ^^ well I agree a little bit, cooley is a very good plAyer, but just like Dallas two te's doesn't work in the NFL.. I think Bennett is a stud in the making as well and Dallas will trade him also. Getting back to 86 this guy could become our version of Antonio gates.. With shanny coming in he could use Davis like he did Shannon sharpe. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-22-2009, 07:05 PM	#6
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? Yeah, who would have thought that with all the talk about Thomas and Kelly stepping up, it would be Fred Davis to show up and take this team by storm __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

12-22-2009, 07:06 PM	#7
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,177	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? ^^ lol players and coaches are completly different. Davis is legit we all knew zorn would be a failure. I hope we keep both but that's prob not gonna happen __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-22-2009, 09:06 PM	#8
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? Fred, dude you are a man. To think, he had so much trouble in his freshman year here. Now the dude has made some of us want to get rid of Cooley. It's amazing how the kid has transformed all our perceptions of him in a few weeks. Fred is worth the second round pick as well as Thomas, but the jury is still out on MK. __________________ Just win.

12-22-2009, 05:45 PM	#1
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 37 Posts: 3,593	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? What if we start creating two set of TEs plays? We have two talented TEs, we just need to get creative w/ plays.. LBs could not over both Cooley and Davis; we can start using rushing plays whole lot more, it would become easier to use Cooley and Davis at same time.. This would set up nice play action plays, only if the offense coordinator (or head coach) knows when to use it.. Why would we want to trade away our best weapon, Cooley? If it wasn't for him, our offense would have been whole lot worse.. Now then, Davis is nice addition.. Redskins FO knew that we were going to draft a talented TE when we already have Cooley.. We should have prepared for it but we weren't..

12-22-2009, 09:24 PM	#9
ChickenMonkey Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ontario,Ca Age: 52 Posts: 274	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? Im a real Chris Cooley fan, but we need extra picks to use on the OL...Cooley would easily fetch a 2nd rounder....An extra 2nd rounder would essentially let us draft a 1st round QB, 2nd round OT & 2nd round OT....

12-22-2009, 10:39 PM	#12
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? Doing some research Davis basically had the same 40 time as Malcolm Kelly. I honestly think that Davis creates mismatches enough that they should do what USC did and make him the #1 receiver. Line him up outside, line him up in the slots, run slants etc. This guy is a freak of nature. Shanny knows what to do with a tight end. Say hello to Shannon Sharpe part 2...

12-22-2009, 11:34 PM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: What if Fred started 16 games? So if FD started 16 games he would put up... Cooley numbers? It's funny how quickly we cast guys aside. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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