the great Joe Bugel

sportscurmudgeon · 01-05-2010, 11:55 PM

tryfuhl:

Bobby Beathard drafted and presented Joe Bugel - - and Joe Gibbs by extension - - Mark May and Russ Grimm. Beathard also signed Joe Jacoby as an undrafted free agent and when Jake arrived in camp the staff tried to put Jake on the DL until Beathard told them that Jake was signed as an OT. Those three guys - - two HoF quality players and a guy who might be considered in that class - - were handed to Bugel virtually on Day One. To his credit, Bugel did not screw that up.

Several years later as age hit "The Hogs", Beathard - - and no one else - - engineered a trade with the Chargers to acquire Jim Lachey who is another HoF caliber OT. Joe Bugel had that one land in his lap; he didn't develop anything there; Lachey was already a Pro Bowler when he arrived in DC.

Bugel is a good coach who happened to be in the right place at the right time and get a bunch of guys who would make him "famous". He has been an OL coach in other places since that run in the 80s when he had HoF quality talent under his tutelage and guess what:

With ordinary talent, his offensive lines have been - - "ordinary".

53Fan · 01-06-2010, 12:01 AM

I like what Casserly said on WPL today. He said Buges was the best o-line coach he'd ever been around. No matter who he coached, that player got better. He also reminded people that George Stark was the only real veteran 0-lineman on our first SB winning team, the rest were 2nd year players.

MTK · 01-06-2010, 08:06 AM

So talent makes a coach look better? Brilliant.

Buges did have a significant hand in making some of those diamonds in the rough sparkle.

dmek25 · 01-06-2010, 03:20 PM

i now vote SC the biggest redskin hater on this site. in his own words, how about a poll?

sportscurmudgeon · 01-06-2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

i now vote SC the biggest redskin hater on this site. in his own words, how about a poll?

Don't like reality much do you?

Dirtbag59 · 01-06-2010, 06:00 PM

I don't know about hiring Alex Gibbs to replace Bugel. For God's sake the guy is one year younger then Bugel. Personally this would be a hell of a time to extend a job offer to Ray Brown. Currently he's working for the Bills.

He (Ray Brown) was hired as assistant offensive line coach for the Buffalo Bills on January 17, 2008.

Nomad · 01-06-2010, 10:40 PM

Peace!

hooskins · 01-06-2010, 11:30 PM

haters dont have to post on an appreciation thread...

skinsguy · 01-07-2010, 01:06 AM

I say this, it takes a good coach to develop players into hall of fame status. I understand that it takes a good GM to find the talent, but without a good coach, a HOF players is an average player. Just my opinion.

01-05-2010, 11:55 PM	#1
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: the great Joe Bugel tryfuhl: Bobby Beathard drafted and presented Joe Bugel - - and Joe Gibbs by extension - - Mark May and Russ Grimm. Beathard also signed Joe Jacoby as an undrafted free agent and when Jake arrived in camp the staff tried to put Jake on the DL until Beathard told them that Jake was signed as an OT. Those three guys - - two HoF quality players and a guy who might be considered in that class - - were handed to Bugel virtually on Day One. To his credit, Bugel did not screw that up. Several years later as age hit "The Hogs", Beathard - - and no one else - - engineered a trade with the Chargers to acquire Jim Lachey who is another HoF caliber OT. Joe Bugel had that one land in his lap; he didn't develop anything there; Lachey was already a Pro Bowler when he arrived in DC. Bugel is a good coach who happened to be in the right place at the right time and get a bunch of guys who would make him "famous". He has been an OL coach in other places since that run in the 80s when he had HoF quality talent under his tutelage and guess what: With ordinary talent, his offensive lines have been - - "ordinary". __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-06-2010, 12:01 AM	#2
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: the great Joe Bugel I like what Casserly said on WPL today. He said Buges was the best o-line coach he'd ever been around. No matter who he coached, that player got better. He also reminded people that George Stark was the only real veteran 0-lineman on our first SB winning team, the rest were 2nd year players. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

01-06-2010, 08:06 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: the great Joe Bugel So talent makes a coach look better? Brilliant. Buges did have a significant hand in making some of those diamonds in the rough sparkle. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-06-2010, 03:20 PM	#4
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: the great Joe Bugel i now vote SC the biggest redskin hater on this site. in his own words, how about a poll? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-06-2010, 06:00 PM	#6
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: the great Joe Bugel I don't know about hiring Alex Gibbs to replace Bugel. For God's sake the guy is one year younger then Bugel. Personally this would be a hell of a time to extend a job offer to Ray Brown. Currently he's working for the Bills. He (Ray Brown) was hired as assistant offensive line coach for the Buffalo Bills on January 17, 2008. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG Last edited by Dirtbag59; 01-06-2010 at 06:45 PM.

01-06-2010, 10:40 PM	#7
Nomad Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 518	Re: the great Joe Bugel Peace!

01-06-2010, 11:30 PM	#8
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01-07-2010, 01:06 AM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: the great Joe Bugel I say this, it takes a good coach to develop players into hall of fame status. I understand that it takes a good GM to find the talent, but without a good coach, a HOF players is an average player. Just my opinion. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

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