F....Cigarettes

[MTK]

http://www.thecmafoundation.org/rxch...s/ETSfacts.pdf

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

http://www.thecmafoundation.org/rxch...s/ETSfacts.pdf

There you have it!
Good thing I keep my.......Hookah out on the veranda....in the wind....

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

http://www.thecmafoundation.org/rxch...s/ETSfacts.pdf

Good stuff Matty, will be printed out in placed at the in laws house. My wife printed up a ton of wallet size photos of my son and she is going to tape each one to ever pack in their "supply draw". They drive to VA once a month to stock up because they are too expensive in MD.

For the record I never got a response to my email from earlier in the week, SHOCKER!

I want to add in response to that article; we once let my FIL and BIL borrow our for Wii for like a week, when the Wii came back I just throw out the controls they were literally yellow, it was sick. They got wind of it and actually paid me back but still it was gross.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Good stuff Matty, will be printed out in placed at the in laws house. My wife printed up a ton of wallet size photos of my son and she is going to tape each one to ever pack in their "supply draw". They drive to VA once a month to stock up because they are too expensive in MD.

For the record I never got a response to my email from earlier in the week, SHOCKER!

I want to add in response to that article; we once let my FIL and BIL borrow our for Wii for like a week, when the Wii came back I just throw out the controls they were literally yellow, it was sick. They got wind of it and actually paid me back but still it was gross.

You really don't need to be sneaky and doing stuff like that? What do you hope to achieve by doing this instead of just handing them the material and photos? I wouldn't guilt trip them as it could make the angry and backfire.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

You really don't need to be sneaky and doing stuff like that? What do you hope to achieve by doing this instead of just handing them the material and photos? I wouldn't guilt trip them as it could make the angry and backfire.

At this point I feel like I am fighting for your lives and if this works so be it.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Good stuff Matty, will be printed out in placed at the in laws house. My wife printed up a ton of wallet size photos of my son and she is going to tape each one to ever pack in their "supply draw". They drive to VA once a month to stock up because they are too expensive in MD.

For the record I never got a response to my email from earlier in the week, SHOCKER!

I want to add in response to that article; we once let my FIL and BIL borrow our for Wii for like a week, when the Wii came back I just throw out the controls they were literally yellow, it was sick. They got wind of it and actually paid me back but still it was gross.

There's some solid evidence they're NOT smoking outside, away from your son.

[Player_HTTR]

Originally Posted by Buster

There's some solid evidence they're NOT smoking outside, away from your son.

I am a smoker (Day 3 without a cigarette) and can not defend smokers in any way, I know it is wrong, it is gross, I am glad they banned smoking in Bars/Restaurants***, and seeing somone smoke is gross.

If you smell smoke inside it is not because its on their clothes, unless they go outside to smoke in a phone booth. If the Wii controller is discolored than they are all smoking inside, that is a lot of smoke and is not transfering from their hands.

Don't feel bad approaching them, they know they need to quit, they may get defensive because they are addicts, but they still know they need to quit. Throwing numbers and stats won't sway them more than likely, but helping them find a way to quit that works for them would mean more. Even though trying to help will probably illicit a defensive reaction at first.

Just my $.02.


***at a state/city level.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Player_HTTR

I am a smoker (Day 3 without a cigarette) and can not defend smokers in any way, I know it is wrong, it is gross, I am glad they banned smoking in Bars/Restaurants***, and seeing somone smoke is gross.

If you smell smoke inside it is not because its on their clothes, unless they go outside to smoke in a phone booth. If the Wii controller is discolored than they are all smoking inside, that is a lot of smoke and is not transfering from their hands.

Don't feel bad approaching them, they know they need to quit, they may get defensive because they are addicts, but they still know they need to quit. Throwing numbers and stats won't sway them more than likely, but helping them find a way to quit that works for them would mean more. Even though trying to help will probably illicit a defensive reaction at first.

Just my $.02.


***at a state/city level.

You post confuses me. If the remote was discolored (yellow) then I would presume the controlers are inside collecting all the burnt tar. Outside there would be too much wind and oxygen and the carbon would be too deluted. Anyone could presume the yellow is coming off their hands via transfer not so much from the cigaretts themselves.

I was not making fun of anyone by saying touche. Anyone who quites smoking good for you honestly. but there are mill of people who most likely don't want to quit this expensive habit, but more importantly they are hooked. For some people it's easier to quit then others.

I'll be honest, god forbid if anyone decides to attack Coca-Cola or Pepsi. lol. I drink soda breakfast, lunch, dinner, and in between. Is it bad for me... it's not helping my liver or kidneys. But I can relate with the smokers. Tell me I'll die if I keep drinking soda and I would continue drinking soda.

[mlmpetert]

I hope your email to your mother in law was well received.

It sounds like your son may have a sereve allergy to smoke and he may have asthma too. Maybe he has other allergies. Do they have cats or dogs or carpet or are there other differences from your house? Is smoking the only possible culprit?

[mredskins]

^ I have dogs at my house they don't, the only other difference between the homes is the cigs.

[firstdown]

This thread is making want to

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

^ I have dogs at my house they don't, the only other difference between the homes is the cigs.

Also think outside the box. My wife who is allergic to everything, not only was effected by my parents smoking, but we had animals as well. I know you said there is not difference but it might also be the type of dog. Some dogs carry more dander then others.

then there was the issue that my parents lived out in the country and my wife was allergic to Oak trees most of all but tree's, grass, and hay. In the country it's pollen city. My wife could only visit for about an hour to an hour and a half.

[SBXVII]

I grew up all my life with my parents smoking. They made sure me and my brother did not. My mom still smokes and is (honestly) in the hospital with pneumonia and dehydration. Obviously not caused by the cigaretts but it's not helping her breathing for her to trash her lungs.

My wife is allergic to everything under the sun to include cigarett smoke. Her eyes also will turn red, get itchy, and sometimes swollen. My kids are in the same situation. Thankfully when I got married and had X-Mas at my house my mother decided on her own to take her cigaretts outside. I was overwhelmed by the respect my mother showed by going outside in the rain and smoking because of the no smoking in my house rules. I even went as far as to tell her she didn't have to go outside cause of the rain and she said no she was going.

On the flip side I feel sorry for the smokers, or atleast the older generations that got all caught up in the commercialization of cigaretts. Now they are hooked and instead of finding a better way to help them quit big government would prefer to treat them like outcasts and make them smoke outside no matter what the weather. Insurance companies would prefer to offer lower insurance to building that have a no smoking policy, and in some states making it illegal to even smoke outside in public.

What are there a bunch of people bored off their asses that have nothing better to do other then stir up trouble, or try to make a name for themselves? What will be next? Alcohol damages the liver so perhaps we should make it illegal to drink (again). Caffine hypes people up so maybe soda's should be illegal and perhaps we can takle coffie also.

Society just needs to understand too much of anything is not good for you. But we need to remember they are people also.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I grew up all my life with my parents smoking. They made sure me and my brother did not. My mom still smokes and is (honestly) in the hospital with pneumonia and dehydration. Obviously not caused by the cigaretts but it's not helping her breathing for her to trash her lungs.

My wife is allergic to everything under the sun to include cigarett smoke. Her eyes also will turn red, get itchy, and sometimes swollen. My kids are in the same situation. Thankfully when I got married and had X-Mas at my house my mother decided on her own to take her cigaretts outside. I was overwhelmed by the respect my mother showed by going outside in the rain and smoking because of the no smoking in my house rules. I even went as far as to tell her she didn't have to go outside cause of the rain and she said no she was going.

On the flip side I feel sorry for the smokers, or atleast the older generations that got all caught up in the commercialization of cigaretts. Now they are hooked and instead of finding a better way to help them quit big government would prefer to treat them like outcasts and make them smoke outside no matter what the weather. Insurance companies would prefer to offer lower insurance to building that have a no smoking policy, and in some states making it illegal to even smoke outside in public.

What are there a bunch of people bored off their asses that have nothing better to do other then stir up trouble, or try to make a name for themselves? What will be next? Alcohol damages the liver so perhaps we should make it illegal to drink (again). Caffine hypes people up so maybe soda's should be illegal and perhaps we can takle coffie also.

Society just needs to understand too much of anything is not good for you. But we need to remember they are people also.

You are missing the point boss, smoking harms folks around them those that yo ujust mention only harm the user.

Trying to defend smokers is a waste of breath.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I grew up all my life with my parents smoking. They made sure me and my brother did not. My mom still smokes and is (honestly) in the hospital with pneumonia and dehydration. Obviously not caused by the cigaretts but it's not helping her breathing for her to trash her lungs.

My wife is allergic to everything under the sun to include cigarett smoke. Her eyes also will turn red, get itchy, and sometimes swollen. My kids are in the same situation. Thankfully when I got married and had X-Mas at my house my mother decided on her own to take her cigaretts outside. I was overwhelmed by the respect my mother showed by going outside in the rain and smoking because of the no smoking in my house rules. I even went as far as to tell her she didn't have to go outside cause of the rain and she said no she was going.

On the flip side I feel sorry for the smokers, or atleast the older generations that got all caught up in the commercialization of cigaretts. Now they are hooked and instead of finding a better way to help them quit big government would prefer to treat them like outcasts and make them smoke outside no matter what the weather. Insurance companies would prefer to offer lower insurance to building that have a no smoking policy, and in some states making it illegal to even smoke outside in public.

What are there a bunch of people bored off their asses that have nothing better to do other then stir up trouble, or try to make a name for themselves? What will be next? Alcohol damages the liver so perhaps we should make it illegal to drink (again). Caffine hypes people up so maybe soda's should be illegal and perhaps we can takle coffie also.

Society just needs to understand too much of anything is not good for you. But we need to remember they are people also.

So you're saying:
Every time someone drinks a Mountain Dew, an angel loses it's wings?