What is necessary for us to be raised to the next level?

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

#1 - keep our draft picks and have a solid 7 rounds of picks (not happening next year)
#2 - Get some help on the D-Line. If you arent going to use Big Al, which all though may have been gassed last night, would have helped with pressure up the middle, and stopping the endless runs between the tackles last night also.
#3 - Oline needs a true guard. I think with the o-line we have, it can be successful if they stay together. We can't keep plugging guys in every year and expect them to be good. They have to play together for a few years before we see some cohesion.
#4 - Everyone is crying for a #1 WR. It would be nice, but I would gladly take what we have now and keep that there next year. I think we need to see more cooley / davis formations. Armstrong may turn out to be a decent to good WR, maybe we can get a late pick that will contribute.
#5 - a freaking kicker that is reliable. How can we not find a guy that can make field goals. Anymore, seems like 45 to 48 are all most automatic for good kickers and this dude scares me from 35!

#1 I agree that it would be nice to have 7 picks for once, but Ill take brown this year over any tackle we could have drafted with that pick
#2 Couldnt agree more but I would also say we didnt have Rocky last night so some of those runs wouldnt have been so bad
#3 Agreed no one could argue that point
#4 #1 WRs free up everything else, last night it looked like they were playing 8 and 9 in the box most of the night
#5 I fondly remember the days of Chip Lohmiller. It was nice to have some confidence in a kicker!

[CRedskinsRule]

Stickum?

[aceinthehouse]

If we can get a #1 WR now,we should pull the trigger if the cost is @ a 2nd round pick or lower..
(or multiple lower round picks like a 4th and a 5th or whatever using 2011 and 2012 draft years))

Or we could keep our draft pick and draft Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas? Yea..lets do that! Lets build through the draft...
Booooom botta......Biiiiiiing!
ace is in the house....lol

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

If we can get a #1 WR now,we should pull the trigger if the cost is @ a 2nd round pick or lower..
(or multiple lower round picks like a 4th and a 5th or whatever using 2011 and 2012 draft years))

Or we could keep our draft pick and draft Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas? Yea..lets do that! Lets build through the draft...
Booooom botta......Biiiiiiing!
ace is in the house....lol

While the elite "big" #1 is A formula for success, some teams have won Super Bowls without a elite "big" WR at all.

See Pats(ok, maybe cheating was involved, but they still cut it close), Colts(ok, Polian rule-mongered it a bit), Steelers(refs make that questionable), Saints(Breesus is better than McNabb)

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

If we can get a #1 WR now,we should pull the trigger if the cost is @ a 2nd round pick or lower..
(or multiple lower round picks like a 4th and a 5th or whatever using 2011 and 2012 draft years))

Or we could keep our draft pick and draft Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas? Yea..lets do that! Lets build through the draft...
Booooom botta......Biiiiiiing!
ace is in the house....lol

Absolutely not. This is what gets us in trouble every year come draft time. Just deal with the talent we have for now and build through the draft. Can't keep giving the damn picks away. We need those later round picks as much as we do the first 3 rounds. The 4-7th (if a good GM) is what rounds out the team. I would rather keep what we have and build through the draft. We all have discussed this 1000 times. not worth going over and over

[skinzfan44]

nobody's stating the obvious...our seconday absolutly stinks. Other than Landry, the rest of these guys need to go to the UFL!! Carlos Rodgers can't catch a cold, Reed Doughty...can't even comment, and Deangelo Hall is all talk. These guys don't scare anybody

[davy]

I'm sick of hearing how great Chip Lohmiller was.

The guy missed multiple kicks from under 40yds every season.

[GusFrerotte]

Nothing has changed from what most of us thought before preseason began. We still need a revamped offensive line and a real WR corp. Not sure we can draft a quality WR this season although there are plenty to go around. I mentioned Sanzenbacher and Stonum as possibles, but I forgot we gave up a second and third pick for Donovan, Those two are either first or second rounders, but we really need a starting G.

[TheSmurfs22]

We need to shore up our offensive line even more. Beef up our WR corps and RB corps at this point. We need to strike a good balance between who we bring in via free agency and the draft.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

We need to shore up our offensive line even more. Beef up our WR corps and RB corps at this point. We need to strike a good balance between who we bring in via free agency and the draft.

I agree. I would like to see us nab younger FAs though. This Galloway type of stuff has to go. I remember how we landed Centers when he was becoming a hot item and he helped us out immensly.

[Chico23231]

I think its a little early to be evaluating what we need just yet. Guys are still getting familiar with the systems.

But Ill state the obvious: A starting Nose Tackle, O-line X 2, speed addtion at RB, and a WR that can move Galloway from the starting line up.

[44ever]

"A Good" 2nd RB to alternate with Torain.

A WR like TO would have run down some of those deep passes. (speed and hight)

Most here won't agree but we need to develop a younger starting QB to develop with this team. If we make it into the playoffs you will see what I mean. I know, I know, McNabb...

We are setting ourselves up to be a future powerhouse team without a QB. At this point.

[Monkeydad]

Carlos is an excellent cover corner. D-Hall is a playmaker and good cover guy as well. Buchanon is a solid nickel/backup CB.

Our safeties are not bad. Landry is a star of course, Kareem Moore is a solid young player with some progress yet to be made (dropping INTs), but is improving. Doughty is a solid tackler, but bad cover guy and Horton...not sure. Horton looked to be a great player in his rookie year but has been unseen since.

Overall, our secondary is pretty good I'd say. If a few guys could learn to catch the ball, we'd be intimidating. Seems like our cover guys can cover but not tackle and our playmakers can get their hands on the ball but can't tackle.

Landry can do everything though.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Buster

Carlos is an excellent cover corner. D-Hall is a playmaker and good cover guy as well. Buchanon is a solid nickel/backup CB.

Our safeties are not bad. Landry is a star of course, Kareem Moore is a solid young player with some progress yet to be made (dropping INTs), but is improving. Doughty is a solid tackler, but bad cover guy and Horton...not sure. Horton looked to be a great player in his rookie year but has been unseen since.

Overall, our secondary is pretty good I'd say. If a few guys could learn to catch the ball, we'd be intimidating. Seems like our cover guys can cover but not tackle and our playmakers can get their hands on the ball but can't tackle.

Landry can do everything though.

Kareem also needs to work on his tackling if he is to be our last line of defense.

[BrunellMVP?]

If DM is not resigned, and signs a 4 year 60 mill contract somewhere else, would we be entitled to a compensatory 2-3 rounder? that would dull the pain.