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[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Going by the rules, it's a penalty. Doesn't matter if it's excessive or not.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."

You have to read it all the way through and according to the rule, it does matter if it's excessive or not:

"( d ) Individual players involved in prolonged or excessive celebrations. Players are prohibited from
engaging in any celebrations while on the ground. A celebration shall be deemed excessive
or prolonged if a player continues to celebrate after a warning from an official."

Hall's celebration was not prolonged or excessive. He did go to his knees for a few seconds as soon as he crossed the end zone line, however he was not warned (or at least appeared not to be) by the official and if he was, he did not continue to celebrate for a prolonged length of time. These rules are meant to be interpreted as a whole, not just part. And taking the entire rule into consideration, Hall's celebration shouldn't have been penalized and rightfully was not.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You have to read it all the way through and according to the rule, it does matter if it's excessive or not:

"( d ) Individual players involved in prolonged or excessive celebrations. Players are prohibited from
engaging in any celebrations while on the ground. A celebration shall be deemed excessive
or prolonged if a player continues to celebrate after a warning from an official."

Hall's celebration was not prolonged or excessive. He did go to his knees for a few seconds as soon as he crossed the end zone line, however he was not warned (or at least appeared not to be) by the official and if he was, he did not continue to celebrate for a prolonged length of time. These rules are meant to be interpreted as a whole, not just part. And taking the entire rule into consideration, Hall's celebration shouldn't have been penalized and rightfully was not.

interesting thanks for that addition.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You have to read it all the way through and according to the rule, it does matter if it's excessive or not:

"( d ) Individual players involved in prolonged or excessive celebrations. Players are prohibited from
engaging in any celebrations while on the ground. A celebration shall be deemed excessive
or prolonged if a player continues to celebrate after a warning from an official."

Hall's celebration was not prolonged or excessive. He did go to his knees for a few seconds as soon as he crossed the end zone line, however he was not warned (or at least appeared not to be) by the official and if he was, he did not continue to celebrate for a prolonged length of time. These rules are meant to be interpreted as a whole, not just part. And taking the entire rule into consideration, Hall's celebration shouldn't have been penalized and rightfully was not.

Prolonged or excessive is obviously a judgment call on part of the refs. Considering the call the refs made on Columbo a few weeks ago, which has total horse-shit, Aikman wasn't completely out of line in his view.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Going to the ground should be a penalty. Like it or not he's right.

Is that a rule? I don't think so, not written as such anyway. Interpretation is pretty suspect. I mean is sliding on your "two" knees worse than the Lambeau Leap? NO!

Sorry, but that is the most idiotic thing I ever heard Aikman say. I think he's probably one of the best commentators out there, but c'mon, really?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Is that a rule? I don't think so, not written as such anyway. Interpretation is pretty suspect. I mean is sliding on your "two" knees worse than the Lambeau Leap? NO!

Sorry, but that is the most idiotic thing I ever heard Aikman say. I think he's probably one of the best commentators out there, but c'mon, really?

Yes, really.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yes, really.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."

So if a guy got thrown into the endzone and landed on his back, then raised his arms in the air in celebration while he was still on his back, then he's excessively celebrating?

While your point is certainly valid, and in the end you are right, it should've been called, I do believe they need to rewrite the rules on that one. Because DeAngelo Hall raising both arms in celebration while on his knees is certainly not excessively celebrating a game changing play, I mean that's not of the same caliber as Chad Johnson using the orange post on the corner of the endzone as a putter to do his Tiger Woods impersonation.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yes, really.

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d) prohibits players “from engaging in any celebrations while on the ground."

Really? He went to his knees and raised both hands with the football. Pretty sure that isn't what they were thinking about when they wrote Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d). You don't really think that should have been a penalty do you?

So I suppose if you score a touchdown, kneel down and say a prayer, that is cause for a flag too right?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Really? He went to his knees and raised both hands with the football. Pretty sure that isn't what they were thinking about when they wrote Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(d). You don't really think that should have been a penalty do you?

So I suppose if you score a touchdown, kneel down and say a prayer, that is cause for a flag too right?

I'm not saying it should have been called, just saying that's what the rule is, and it certainly COULD have been called if the refs wanted to.

Aikman wasn't crazy in what he was saying, especially considering the ticky tacky call that the Cowboys drew a few weeks ago when Columbo spiked it and fell to the ground and got called.

As Aikman also said, going to one knee is not a penalty.

[SirClintonPortis]

Theismann is now an owner of a UFL team and he was always prone to making godawful errors at times. Plus, he's only on hire by NBC.

[Chico23231]

Ive always disliked Aikmen as an announcer. I really dont need a reason other than I dont care for him. I really cant stand Joe Buck though, he is horrible. Aikmen looked like a complete fool today for stating Cutler should try to get Hall on a double move. Good call Aikmen, keep trying to pick on Hall. 4 INTs FOOL!!!

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ive always disliked Aikmen as an announcer. I really dont need a reason other than I dont care for him. I really cant stand Joe Buck though, he is horrible. Aikmen looked like a complete fool today for stating Cutler should try to get Hall on a double move. Good call Aikmen, keep trying to pick on Hall. 4 INTs FOOL!!!

Actually, that was something I agreed with. None of Hall's INTs came off of his WR trying to pull a double move.

[Pocket$ $traight]

If you really think that it is bad to have the #1 Fox team doing our games you are probably one of those people who wanted to trade or drop Albert Haynesworth.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

If you really think that it is bad to have the #1 Fox team doing our games you are probably one of those people who wanted to trade or drop Albert Haynesworth.

Not all of us are blessed with the genius gene like you. Forgive us oh wise one.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by saden1

Not all of us are blessed with the genius gene like you. Forgive us oh wise one.

You have consistently proven that you aren't, that being said. I like your passion.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

You have consistently proven that you aren't, that being said. I like your passion.

Why do you feel the need to insult people all the time?