Jerry Porter will test free agent waters

SmootSmack · 02-13-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

ESPN Insider now has the 2005 Free Agent Profiles up, here's what they have on Burress and Porter.

Plaxico Burress
Grade: 84
Burress possesses a great combination of size and speed but he has yet to maximize his potential and can be inconsistent at times. He has very good, deceptive speed for his size and is a vertical threat on every snap. He has rare height and can adjust to the ball while it's in the air and is capable of making acrobatic catches in traffic. He does a nice job of using his hands at the line of scrimmage and has the upper body strength to consistently get a clean release when working against press coverage and rarely gets muscled around. Provides a big target on slant routes and skinny posts and does a great job of shielding the ball from the defender. Will catch the ball over the middle and has proven to be a tough receiver in traffic. However, Burress has not been a consistent "pro", will take plays off and has not become the great red zone threat that he should be. He lacks a great work ethic and does not play hard on every snap, particularly if he is not the primary target. He will display bad body language if things aren't going his way and the look on his face is worth a thousand words. He is not yet a polished route runner and often just gets by with his imposing size and strength. He will drop some passes that he should catch and occasionally turns up field before securing the ball. He is an inconsistent blocker and does not always give great effort in this area and considering his size, he should be a dominant blocker. His physical presence and playmaking ability create some mismatches, but he has not possessed the commitment and focus of the elite receivers in the league.

Jerry Porter
Grade: 75
Porter has good speed, he shows a second gear when tracking the ball and he has the leaping ability to compete for jump balls downfield. He shows adequate awareness and he does a nice job of locating balls thrown over shoulder. He reads defenses fairly well and he generally locates the soft spots in zone coverage. He has the upper body strength to maintain separation from defenders, he has the quick feet to avoid contact and he rarely gets caught up at the line of scrimmage. However, he isn't a great short-to-intermediate route runner and he still drops some passes that he should catch. His footwork is inconsistent and he doesn't show great doubles moves. He will look upfield before securing the ball at times and he needs to show better focus. Overall, he isn't a sharp route-runner and he is inconsistent but he is a playmaker with excellent natural ability.

This is a tough call, I want to lean toward Burress. But some of the things that Insider says about Plax's weaknesses are very Gardner-esque, and I wonder how much he benefits from Hines Ward lining up on the other side. And I don't think it's a case of he needs more discipline or better coaching because he's been coached by Cowher his entire career. But on the plus side he puts up good numbers and the Steelers have an offense very similar to the Redskins'.

I guess I would say Burress. But one guy I really think we should take a look at is Derrick Mason, if he becomes a cap casualty as expected.

MTK · 02-13-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

If I'm Philadelphia I'd be devoting my time and money to getting Shaun Alexander in an Eagles uniform. Or trying to swing a trade for Edge or Travis Henry.

The Eagles will be scary if they obtain a big-time RB who can pound between the tackles.

SKINSnCANES · 02-13-2005, 08:55 PM

the eagles like using westbrook i think. THey have always used their hb to run screens. I never knew Staley could run until this year. If they go and get porter, and have that tandom or receivers....look out.

I hope the NFC East gets back to its glory years of us all being tough instead of just the eagles every year

MTK · 02-13-2005, 09:49 PM

I think they could make use of two backs, Westbrook as more of the change of pace/3rd down guy and someone who can grind out some tough yards between the tackles like what Dillon did for the Pats this year. Not that I want to see this happen, LOL, but if it does the Eagles will be damn scary. Imagine someone like Shaun Alexander in the backfield.

SKINSnCANES · 02-13-2005, 10:15 PM

im going to try and not imagine that...definitly scary

Daseal · 02-13-2005, 11:34 PM

What about Buckhalter. He was injured but he has that between the tackle type mentallity. The Eagles were definitely a passing team in the red zone, I think that a big time running back would make them truly scary on offense - however, if I were going after a big name, I'd go for a #2 WR.

I think the Seahawks will let Hasselbeck go before Alexander.

skinsfanthru&thru · 02-13-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I think the Seahawks will let Hasselbeck go before Alexander.

I agree. out of their 3 big FA's, I'd think Alexander would be the guy they are most likely to use the franchise tag on if needed. Isn't Rudi Johnson a restricted free agent this year 2?
and edge is headed to miami, even though I think they should go after hasselback and draft cadillac williams. this is probably going to be one of the more interesting offseason's in the past few years to watch.

MTK · 02-13-2005, 11:52 PM

Buckhalter has some serious durability issues, he's missed two of the last three seasons with knee injuries. I'm thinking the Eagles may look to move on to someone more reliable.

skinsfanthru&thru · 02-13-2005, 11:58 PM

plus don't the eagles have to resign westbrook first before talk of a 2-headed rb attack gets too serious? even though as long as they have a healthy Mcnugget as qb, they'll always have a 2 serious running threats.

Shane · 02-14-2005, 01:57 AM

The ESPN Insider reports on Burress and Porter suggest players that just are not the professionals that we need on our team - or young players that are open to being molded.

Burress' immaturity would be a problem we can ill afford to have, and Porter's lack of polish in combination with the price tag of a contract for him make him someone we don't need on our team in my view. They are both talented players, but I don't think they fit into the Redskin mold.

What is the Redskin mold? The "all for one and one for all spirit." That is what we need in our players and if they don't have it or seem readily able to learn it, I don't think they would be a good fit.

It's one thing if you have a mature team that has been around awhile with a solid structure, to bring in a player with a difficult attitude. But when you are developing your team like we are, you want guys who provide the kind of spirit a James Thrash does. I don't see that likely happening with Burress or Porter, and the cost of contracts with them just means we should avoid them in my view.

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ESPN Insider now has the 2005 Free Agent Profiles up, here's what they have on Burress and Porter.

Plaxico Burress
Grade: 84
....However, Burress has not been a consistent "pro", will take plays off and has not become the great red zone threat that he should be. He lacks a great work ethic and does not play hard on every snap, particularly if he is not the primary target. He will display bad body language if things aren't going his way and the look on his face is worth a thousand words. He is not yet a polished route runner and often just gets by with his imposing size and strength. He will drop some passes that he should catch and occasionally turns up field before securing the ball. He is an inconsistent blocker and does not always give great effort in this area and considering his size, he should be a dominant blocker. His physical presence and playmaking ability create some mismatches, but he has not possessed the commitment and focus of the elite receivers in the league.

Jerry Porter
Grade: 75
However, he isn't a great short-to-intermediate route runner and he still drops some passes that he should catch. His footwork is inconsistent and he doesn't show great doubles moves. He will look upfield before securing the ball at times and he needs to show better focus. Overall, he isn't a sharp route-runner and he is inconsistent but he is a playmaker with excellent natural ability.

View Poll Results: You're Dan Snyder, which free agent WR do you go after?
Plaxico Burress	7	63.64%
Jerry Porter	1	9.09%
other (explain)	3	27.27%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

02-13-2005, 08:55 PM	#33
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	the eagles like using westbrook i think. THey have always used their hb to run screens. I never knew Staley could run until this year. If they go and get porter, and have that tandom or receivers....look out. I hope the NFC East gets back to its glory years of us all being tough instead of just the eagles every year __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

02-13-2005, 10:15 PM	#35
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	im going to try and not imagine that...definitly scary __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

02-13-2005, 11:34 PM	#36
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Jerry Porter will test free agent waters What about Buckhalter. He was injured but he has that between the tackle type mentallity. The Eagles were definitely a passing team in the red zone, I think that a big time running back would make them truly scary on offense - however, if I were going after a big name, I'd go for a #2 WR. I think the Seahawks will let Hasselbeck go before Alexander.

02-13-2005, 11:52 PM	#38
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Jerry Porter will test free agent waters Buckhalter has some serious durability issues, he's missed two of the last three seasons with knee injuries. I'm thinking the Eagles may look to move on to someone more reliable.

02-13-2005, 09:49 PM	#34
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	I think they could make use of two backs, Westbrook as more of the change of pace/3rd down guy and someone who can grind out some tough yards between the tackles like what Dillon did for the Pats this year. Not that I want to see this happen, LOL, but if it does the Eagles will be damn scary. Imagine someone like Shaun Alexander in the backfield.

02-13-2005, 11:58 PM	#39
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	Re: Jerry Porter will test free agent waters plus don't the eagles have to resign westbrook first before talk of a 2-headed rb attack gets too serious? even though as long as they have a healthy Mcnugget as qb, they'll always have a 2 serious running threats.

02-14-2005, 01:57 AM	#40
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	Re: Jerry Porter will test free agent waters The ESPN Insider reports on Burress and Porter suggest players that just are not the professionals that we need on our team - or young players that are open to being molded. Burress' immaturity would be a problem we can ill afford to have, and Porter's lack of polish in combination with the price tag of a contract for him make him someone we don't need on our team in my view. They are both talented players, but I don't think they fit into the Redskin mold. What is the Redskin mold? The "all for one and one for all spirit." That is what we need in our players and if they don't have it or seem readily able to learn it, I don't think they would be a good fit. It's one thing if you have a mature team that has been around awhile with a solid structure, to bring in a player with a difficult attitude. But when you are developing your team like we are, you want guys who provide the kind of spirit a James Thrash does. I don't see that likely happening with Burress or Porter, and the cost of contracts with them just means we should avoid them in my view. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN Insider now has the 2005 Free Agent Profiles up, here's what they have on Burress and Porter. Plaxico Burress Grade: 84 ....However, Burress has not been a consistent "pro", will take plays off and has not become the great red zone threat that he should be. He lacks a great work ethic and does not play hard on every snap, particularly if he is not the primary target. He will display bad body language if things aren't going his way and the look on his face is worth a thousand words. He is not yet a polished route runner and often just gets by with his imposing size and strength. He will drop some passes that he should catch and occasionally turns up field before securing the ball. He is an inconsistent blocker and does not always give great effort in this area and considering his size, he should be a dominant blocker. His physical presence and playmaking ability create some mismatches, but he has not possessed the commitment and focus of the elite receivers in the league. Jerry Porter Grade: 75 However, he isn't a great short-to-intermediate route runner and he still drops some passes that he should catch. His footwork is inconsistent and he doesn't show great doubles moves. He will look upfield before securing the ball at times and he needs to show better focus. Overall, he isn't a sharp route-runner and he is inconsistent but he is a playmaker with excellent natural ability.

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