Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I don't think firing him during the season would help. I don't even know if he should be fired after the season. I don't know, I really wanna give the guy the benefit of the doubt but I'm seeing very little in the way of whole team improvement. The team is practically the same as last year except now we actually have a quarterback. It's like throwing a new gloss of paint on an old shitty car; It looks nice at first but then you realize it's still your same old shitty car.

Or a new coat of paint on section 8 housing. Inside, It might have a 70 inch LED 3dtv (RG3), but you're still in downtown detroit. Our defense would be the crumbling foundation, and the old lead based paint chips falling off all over the place. Of course our corners would be the overflowed toilet, and our safeties would be the rat and squirrel droppings in the dark dank corners.

(I don't know why I just typed that, I just kept going, just like the vast majority of my posts........)

[MTK]

My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

Yes...
these are some steps a reasonable organization trying to build for the future looks to. Cashing in your chips and starting over again makes you the Raiders....

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

I'd like to join your nutshell sir, that sounds like a decent start. I would look to young up-and-comers for the defensive side of the ball too, doesn't matter if they're 3-4 or 4-3 guys, as long as they have the right pedigree. If that means switching back to a 4-3 I'm alright with that, we'd already have a good pair of bookend DE's in Kerrigan and Rak, plus I'd be more comfortable with Cofield as a DT in a 4-3. Let Riley take over the middle, slide K. Robinson and someone else to outside 'backers and then overhaul our secondary in FA.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'd like to join your nutshell sir, that sounds like a decent start. I would look to young up-and-comers for the defensive side of the ball too, doesn't matter if they're 3-4 or 4-3 guys, as long as they have the right pedigree. If that means switching back to a 4-3 I'm alright with that, we'd already have a good pair of bookend DE's in Kerrigan and Rak, plus I'd be more comfortable with Cofield as a DT in a 4-3. Let Riley take over the middle, slide K. Robinson and someone else to outside 'backers and then overhaul our secondary in FA.

I dunno. Switching back to a defensive scheme we're familiar with sounds like too much of a coherent plan.

Time to switch to Tampa 2.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'd like to join your nutshell sir, that sounds like a decent start. I would look to young up-and-comers for the defensive side of the ball too, doesn't matter if they're 3-4 or 4-3 guys, as long as they have the right pedigree. If that means switching back to a 4-3 I'm alright with that, we'd already have a good pair of bookend DE's in Kerrigan and Rak, plus I'd be more comfortable with Cofield as a DT in a 4-3. Let Riley take over the middle, slide K. Robinson and someone else to outside 'backers and then overhaul our secondary in FA.

Agreed Cofield, Bowen, Jenkins and Carriker (next season) might be better rotational DT's in the 4-3. Kerrigan would have to play SAM. Maybe put Bowen at LDE?

And cut Hall, keep the other secondary and LBs.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

That's the most obvious fix, but I love how Redskins fans' version of fixing the team is equal to amputating a limb to heal a scratch.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

That's the most obvious fix, but I love how Redskins fans' version of fixing the team is equal to amputating a limb to heal a scratch.

"I broke my finger"
"Take off the whole arm!"

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

"I broke my finger"
"Take off the whole arm!"

LOL! Exactly!

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

My plan in a nutshell, I would fire Haslett right after the season and get the best available DC in here, and I would focus free agency and the draft on totally revamping the secondary.

I'm agreeing with this. Our defensive coach seem like middle of the pack guys even if we had good players. If we can identify a coordinator that looks like a better fit and has a better resume, I think we should improve that. Our offense is really starting to hum and the Shanahans have shown that they are able to adapt to get the best out of our rookies.

I always hate to hear a question like "should we fire the coach now or after the season". It reminds me of people that quit a job because they don't like it but don't have anything else lined up. These things need to be done in a responsible way.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I did not expect someone like you to start this thread. I say no, let Shanny have his 5 years since he did say that it WILL take 5 years to complete the rebuilding.

What we saw today is not fixable in two years. Especially with the cap hit and no first round picks. Shanny shouldnt be fired today if that is the question because who the hell is going to take over now? If we go 6-10 this year (which is seeming like a challenge at this point) than i think it is worth serious consideration. I mean his overall record for the last ten years and complete lack of post season appearances are going to warrant the thought for sure.


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[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What we saw today is not fixable in two years. Especially with the cap hit and no first round picks. Shanny shouldnt be fired today if that is the question because who the hell is going to take over now? If we go 6-10 this year (which is seeming like a challenge at this point) than i think it is worth serious consideration. I mean his overall record for the last ten years and complete lack of post season appearances are going to warrant the thought for sure.

I don't know about that. We have good pieces in offense and defense (front 7), the only thing we really need to fix is secondary. Don't forget, we lost few key players to injuries on both sides. As for Shanny, I have to agree with you that his record doesn't show much. But from what I am seeing from Redskins team, compared to last few years before Shanny era, the team is better now.

[skinsfaninok]

Listen it's not all Mike's fault but this team isn't getting much better by the seasons he's been here which is 3 now. Like I said in the postgame thread, RG3 is making MS look good this year BUT he is also making it easier for a rookie to come in and be effective. Honestly I think Griffin is the type of QB any coach could win with.

3-5 after 8 games which is on pace for 6-10 again. Question is who do u replace Mike with?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Listen it's not all Mike's fault but this team isn't getting much better by the seasons he's been here which is 3 now. Like I said in the postgame thread, RG3 is making MS look good this year BUT he is also making it easier for a rookie to come in and be effective. Honestly I think Griffin is the type of QB any coach could win with.

3-5 after 8 games which is on pace for 6-10 again. Question is who do u replace Mike with?

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

I reserve the right to change this opinion after 8 more games, but at this point, bringing Shanahan back for 2013 would be way more inexcusable than bringing Zorn back for 2009 was. And could result in a season that would be even more of a disaster.