Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread

[TheMalcolmConnection]

If this season was anything other than the way it was, I would have said go for OT, but I actually liked the call to go for 2. It's been that kind of season, why not just go for it?

7 turnovers is definitely difficult to to get past. Overall, the defense played fairly well with the exception of third down defense which has driven me crazy all season.

Now, let me preface this by saying, RG3 IS THE GUY, but at any point was anyone like, "Wow, RG3 would have made that play!"? Again, this isn't me saying Cousins should be starting, but it's nice to see us have two legitimate options at QB. If he keeps playing like that, we might get first! Reminds me of Andy Dalton a lot...

[jamf]

I don't see the reasoning behind trading KC. I doubt we would get anything better than a 3rd at this point.
Teams need two quality QB's, just look at GB.

Kirk managed the game pretty well and had some nice throws, as soon as ATL started planning for the rollout he was only marginal.

Interesting that Mike Nolan was coaching ATL's D. We've had some bad games with him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jamf

I don't see the reasoning behind trading KC. I doubt we would get anything better than a 3rd at this point.
Teams need two quality QB's, just look at GB.

Kirk managed the game pretty well and had some nice throws, as soon as ATL started planning for the rollout he was only marginal.

Interesting that Mike Nolan was coaching ATL's D. We've had some bad games with him.

I believe his contract goes up significantly after this next season, making him considerably less attractive to trade. I would trade him this off-season, especially if there's a new HC. And then just draft another young QB

[bigm29]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I believe his contract goes up significantly after this next season, making him considerably less attractive to trade. I would trade him this off-season, especially if there's a new HC. And then just draft another young QB

Anybody that trades for him is going to sign him to a new contract anyway because they are going to want him as a starter. But I hope we keep Cousins either way, unless we can get a ridiculous trade for him. Griffin is just too much of a question mark at this point with the way he played this season. I'm fine with going into next season with him as the starter, but if he doesn't show that he can get back to form in the first 4 or 5 games of 2014, I'm going to want Cousins out there.

With the amount of QB problems the Redskins have had over the last 20 years, I don't want to give up a potential franchise QB in Cousins if Griffin doesn't live up to the potential that we all know he has.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by bigm29

Anybody that trades for him is going to sign him to a new contract anyway because they are going to want him as a starter. But I hope we keep Cousins either way, unless we can get a ridiculous trade for him. Griffin is just too much of a question mark at this point with the way he played this season. I'm fine with going into next season with him as the starter, but if he doesn't show that he can get back to form in the first 4 or 5 games of 2014, I'm going to want Cousins out there.

With the amount of QB problems the Redskins have had over the last 20 years, I don't want to give up a potential franchise QB in Cousins if Griffin doesn't live up to the potential that we all know he has.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be eligible for a new contract for another two years. Plus, why pay franchise money when you don't have to just yet?

[SFREDSKIN]

Why are people saying getting a 2nd rounder? I would ask for a 1st, someone will fork it out. Gabbert, Locker, Manuel were drafted in the 1st round, you guys think a team doesn't want an experienced QB rather than spend a 1st round pick on someone green out of college? If I was a team like Houston, Minnesota, Jacksonville or Arizona I would gladly give a 1st rounder for someone like Cousins.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I believe his contract goes up significantly after this next season, making him considerably less attractive to trade. I would trade him this off-season, especially if there's a new HC. And then just draft another young QB

If there's a new HC, as is expected, there really isn't any upside to keeping Cousins.

If KC plays well over the next 2 games, his trade value will never be higher. All it takes is one GM or coach to fall in love with him for us to get a mid 2nd and maybe even a conditional 2015 pick for him. I don't think he'll ever get to a 1st round value because of some of his decision making/risk taking. Wherever Kyle ends up immediately becomes the top option for Cousins.

Not to mention if he plays well, the 'noise' surrounding the team and the QB position would be overwhelming considering everything else going on. Best situation for the organization is a quiet, focused offseason at that position, sign a vet that fits the system and draft a rookie in the 5th or so to develop as the long term backup.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

If there's a new HC, as is expected, there really isn't any upside to keeping Cousins.

If KC plays well over the next 2 games, his trade value will never be higher. All it takes is one GM or coach to fall in love with him for us to get a mid 2nd and maybe even a conditional 2015 pick for him. I don't think he'll ever get to a 1st round value because of some of his decision making/risk taking. Wherever Kyle ends up immediately becomes the top option for Cousins.

Not to mention if he plays well, the 'noise' surrounding the team and the QB position would be overwhelming considering everything else going on. Best situation for the organization is a quiet, focused offseason at that position, sign a vet that fits the system and draft a rookie in the 5th or so to develop as the long term backup.

Plus you don't want him to do really well and then create a QB controversy with Griffin. these guys have big ego's and that would set his growthback. If you truly blieve Griffin is the future you don't want another potential starter sitting back there that has proven himself in real games. Sure an unproven commodity is fine but unless the Starter is well established you can't have soem one with starter potential sitting behind them. he will always be looking over his shoulder and I think that would dramtically set III back.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Brody81

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[Brody81]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Brody, what are you getting at?

Wrong post. Gus, I was just saying I agreed with the post.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I believe his contract goes up significantly after this next season, making him considerably less attractive to trade. I would trade him this off-season, especially if there's a new HC. And then just draft another young QB

I agree , I'd trade him but only if we can get a 2 for him if.not then no

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Why are people saying getting a 2nd rounder? I would ask for a 1st, someone will fork it out. Gabbert, Locker, Manuel were drafted in the 1st round, you guys think a team doesn't want an experienced QB rather than spend a 1st round pick on someone green out of college? If I was a team like Houston, Minnesota, Jacksonville or Arizona I would gladly give a 1st rounder for someone like Cousins.

He's probably not worth a 1st, I mean today he played good but bad also, his ints and fumble were ugly . Let's see what he can do the next two weeks first but I'd still say a 2 is worth it for cousins if I'm a team like jax

[Chief X_Phackter]

I say keep Cousins. Let them battle it out in the offseason/preseason and the best man wins the starting QB position. Yeah they gave up a lot for RGIII, but that is history. You can't take that back, but you can't let that dictate your future either. His injury changes everything, and there is at least a possibility he will never be the same player you thought you were getting. Bottom line is you field the best player, the player that gives you the best chance to win. If that happens to be Cousins come early September 2014, then hand the clip board to RGIII.

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Originally Posted by chief x_phackter

i say keep cousins. Let them battle it out in the offseason/preseason and the best man wins the starting qb position. Yeah they gave up a lot for rgiii, but that is history. You can't take that back, but you can't let that dictate your future either. His injury changes everything, and there is at least a possibility he will never be the same player you thought you were getting. Bottom line is you field the best player, the player that gives you the best chance to win. If that happens to be cousins come early september 2014, then hand the clip board to rgiii.

+1!

[firstdown]

Did anyone catch that the announcer said he talked to Rak and he was excited to test free agency. I've also noticed that Rak has been playing harder the past couple of weeks. Before that it was like he was not even on the field for a few games. I would not be surprised if he is not gone after this year.