Snyder Interview

EEich · 03-30-2005, 02:13 PM

I'm not so sure...
It's hard for me to say that the Skins have improved during the off-season.
We've been hearing Dan say it for five years now. It's getting old and tired.

Schneed10 · 03-30-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EEich

I'm not so sure...
It's hard for me to say that the Skins have improved during the off-season.
We've been hearing Dan say it for five years now. It's getting old and tired.

Right, but in the past offseasons we've also been hearing Steve Spurrier saying that he thought we'd improved. But now, we're hearing Joe Gibbs saying we're improved.

It's a given that Dan Snyder knows nothing about football. But when Joe Gibbs starts to say we're improving, then I'm starting to believe. There's a bit of a difference between Gibbs and Spurrier.

EEich · 03-30-2005, 02:29 PM

After watching Gibbs start the wrong QB for most of last year,
I can't say that I have as much confidence in Joe as I did during his Superbowl years.

Schneed10 · 03-30-2005, 02:29 PM

But Brunell isn't starting this year, Ramsey is. I can't see how that's not a cause for optimism.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-30-2005, 03:28 PM

Schneed10:

Did I miss something about how Coles thought at one point he was going to be released and would forego his roster bonus but then the story broke and things changed. If there is even a 10% stain of truth in that, then somebody somewhere somehow pondered the possibility of a release - - but then things changed. So, I'm not 100% convinced that Demasio was completely wrong in his story. I am positive he did not have it completely right either.

Ramseyfan:

You have hit the jackpot here. The Skins - and Danny Boy specifically - do not like the tone of the Wash Post's coverage of the team and its actions. It starts with the "obstructed view seats" and goes through to the coverage of the lawsuits to ban people crossing the street to get to Fed Ex and not pay huge parking fees and then on to the not always successful team personnel decisions. So Danny Boy - knowing that he is a prime catch for a media outlet here in Washington on an exclusive interview - goes to the Times and not the Post.

When he does that, he KNOWS AHEAD OF TIME that the Times will do a positive story about him because that is the ONLY way they will get to interview him again on an exclusive basis. If they trash him, they are toast. They know that they are #2 in this market and that in the long run Danny Boy can't make nearly as much money without the Post on his side, so the Times will be "gentle" with the interview and "upbeat" with the story. That is good public relations positioning by Danny Boy; he had that one figured out perfectly.

And that is precisely why each and every detail of the Wash Times story ought not to be considered as gospel truth - without some independent verification. Just as Danny Boy knew the interview would be "gentle", he also knew the kind of image of himself he wanted to project and he probably had a few "messages" he wanted to "get out there". So, some of the stuff in there is no more "objective" and "reality-based" than the stuff on redskins.com. In fact, a part of the interview is stuff that might have appeared on redskins.com had there not been this Times interview.

Never did I say here - or in any other place on Planet Earth - that Bill O'Reilley or anyone who behaves as he does is/was a hard-hitting and objective and truth-seeking journalist. Woodward and Bernstein were back in the 70s; Sy Hersh is and has been for the last 30 years; no one on the Post or the Times sports staff measures up on that scale. No one!

If I look at the "negative stories" that have come out locally about the Redskins in the Post over the past couple of years, I'm not sure I would call them "muckraking". The team's free agency gains and losses are out there for all to see; the lawsuit to allow people to walk to the stadium was public record; the story about the obstructed view seats was sensationalized a bit because of the amount of space it got in the sports section, but it wasn't really muckraking.

You'll know if Danny Boy is serious about "punishing" the Post or if this is just a way for him to use the Times as a way to get some good ink in town, by watching to see if the Post gets fewer press credentials for the Skins games/events this season. Ask Joe Crisp what those are worth to a paper. My guess is that the Post will have as many as they ask for - as will the Times.

EEich · 03-30-2005, 03:47 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...adel&type=lgns

Daseal · 03-30-2005, 05:20 PM

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Right, but in the past offseasons we've also been hearing Steve Spurrier saying that he thought we'd improved. But now, we're hearing Joe Gibbs saying we're improved.

It's a given that Dan Snyder knows nothing about football. But when Joe Gibbs starts to say we're improving, then I'm starting to believe. There's a bit of a difference between Gibbs and Spurrier.

Have you ever heard a coach say, "Man we got a lot worse this offseason... We won't be competing this year. Sorry fans."

The 49ers (thank god, I hate em!) might end up saying it this year, but I've never heard anything but optimism from coaches!

Daseal · 03-30-2005, 05:22 PM

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But Snyder gave his first interview in more than two years to a paper he once reviled. In fact, the reporter who interviewed Snyder, David Elfin -- also a Warpath contributor -- once was banished to the basement during home games. Why? Because Snyder didn't like the newspaper's coverage in his early years.

Nice article, EEich! Who is it!

JWsleep · 03-30-2005, 05:33 PM

TWT: Why not give Vinny the GM title?
Snyder: Having a GM goes back to when the general manager ran the ticket office. He used to be like a CEO. Less than half the teams today have a GM. The majority of the coaches have the final say. New England and Philadelphia have a vice president of player personnel and no GM. We have the same structure.

I found this interesting. Is it true? Also, did you see where Danny blamed Vinny for the Deon fiasco?

Anyway, I liked the interview. I believe that he's letting Gibbs run the show. And it can't hurt to have two papers in town competing to have the best skins coverage.

Paintrain · 03-30-2005, 05:58 PM

Being an out of town fan I only have the Post and Times websites to depend on for Redskins "news" so I don't really care about the politics of who is in bed with the FO or not.. Bottom line the Post needs to remember is Journalism 101, it's more important to be right than first.

CRT3 · 03-30-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Extremeskins has been keeping track of some of Nunyo's inaccuracies, and some of them are quite disturbing for someone who is supposed to be the beat reporter for a major newspaper.

Well he is a hell of alot better then Maske. Maske had this annoying habit of repeating paragraphs vebatim in every single story.

EEich · 03-30-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Nice article, EEich! Who is it!

I'm not sure... When he refers to the Warpath, I don't think he's referring to this board though.

SmootSmack · 03-30-2005, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWsleep

TWT: Why not give Vinny the GM title?
Snyder: Having a GM goes back to when the general manager ran the ticket office. He used to be like a CEO. Less than half the teams today have a GM. The majority of the coaches have the final say. New England and Philadelphia have a vice president of player personnel and no GM. We have the same structure.

I found this interesting. Is it true? Also, did you see where Danny blamed Vinny for the Deon fiasco?

Anyway, I liked the interview. I believe that he's letting Gibbs run the show. And it can't hurt to have two papers in town competing to have the best skins coverage.

He's right about less than half the teams having a "GM" and that neither New England nor Philadelphia have anyone with the title General Manager. That's why I'm always curious to know what exactly it is that people want when they say "We need a GM" Is that just to say that we have a GM? Anyway, we've had that GM discussion more than enough times

Daseal · 03-30-2005, 11:25 PM

I think the fact that we've had some success with a GM so people feel a GM will bring back success. I'm part of that crowd to an extent. Vinny is mainly a scout, and I don't like coaches with the say in player personel. I think they should have an opinion, but not everything.

jdlea · 03-30-2005, 11:30 PM

I hate me some Vinny Cerrato. He bends over backwards for Snyder too much. We should have kept Joe Mendes.

03-30-2005, 02:13 PM	#31
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	Re: Snyder Interview I'm not so sure... It's hard for me to say that the Skins have improved during the off-season. We've been hearing Dan say it for five years now. It's getting old and tired.

03-30-2005, 02:29 PM	#33
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	Re: Snyder Interview After watching Gibbs start the wrong QB for most of last year, I can't say that I have as much confidence in Joe as I did during his Superbowl years.

03-30-2005, 02:29 PM	#34
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Snyder Interview But Brunell isn't starting this year, Ramsey is. I can't see how that's not a cause for optimism.

03-30-2005, 03:28 PM	#35
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Snyder Interview Schneed10: Did I miss something about how Coles thought at one point he was going to be released and would forego his roster bonus but then the story broke and things changed. If there is even a 10% stain of truth in that, then somebody somewhere somehow pondered the possibility of a release - - but then things changed. So, I'm not 100% convinced that Demasio was completely wrong in his story. I am positive he did not have it completely right either. Ramseyfan: You have hit the jackpot here. The Skins - and Danny Boy specifically - do not like the tone of the Wash Post's coverage of the team and its actions. It starts with the "obstructed view seats" and goes through to the coverage of the lawsuits to ban people crossing the street to get to Fed Ex and not pay huge parking fees and then on to the not always successful team personnel decisions. So Danny Boy - knowing that he is a prime catch for a media outlet here in Washington on an exclusive interview - goes to the Times and not the Post. When he does that, he KNOWS AHEAD OF TIME that the Times will do a positive story about him because that is the ONLY way they will get to interview him again on an exclusive basis. If they trash him, they are toast. They know that they are #2 in this market and that in the long run Danny Boy can't make nearly as much money without the Post on his side, so the Times will be "gentle" with the interview and "upbeat" with the story. That is good public relations positioning by Danny Boy; he had that one figured out perfectly. And that is precisely why each and every detail of the Wash Times story ought not to be considered as gospel truth - without some independent verification. Just as Danny Boy knew the interview would be "gentle", he also knew the kind of image of himself he wanted to project and he probably had a few "messages" he wanted to "get out there". So, some of the stuff in there is no more "objective" and "reality-based" than the stuff on redskins.com. In fact, a part of the interview is stuff that might have appeared on redskins.com had there not been this Times interview. Never did I say here - or in any other place on Planet Earth - that Bill O'Reilley or anyone who behaves as he does is/was a hard-hitting and objective and truth-seeking journalist. Woodward and Bernstein were back in the 70s; Sy Hersh is and has been for the last 30 years; no one on the Post or the Times sports staff measures up on that scale. No one! If I look at the "negative stories" that have come out locally about the Redskins in the Post over the past couple of years, I'm not sure I would call them "muckraking". The team's free agency gains and losses are out there for all to see; the lawsuit to allow people to walk to the stadium was public record; the story about the obstructed view seats was sensationalized a bit because of the amount of space it got in the sports section, but it wasn't really muckraking. You'll know if Danny Boy is serious about "punishing" the Post or if this is just a way for him to use the Times as a way to get some good ink in town, by watching to see if the Post gets fewer press credentials for the Skins games/events this season. Ask Joe Crisp what those are worth to a paper. My guess is that the Post will have as many as they ask for - as will the Times. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-30-2005, 03:47 PM	#36
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	Re: Snyder Interview http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...adel&type=lgns

03-30-2005, 05:33 PM	#39
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Snyder Interview TWT: Why not give Vinny the GM title? Snyder: Having a GM goes back to when the general manager ran the ticket office. He used to be like a CEO. Less than half the teams today have a GM. The majority of the coaches have the final say. New England and Philadelphia have a vice president of player personnel and no GM. We have the same structure. I found this interesting. Is it true? Also, did you see where Danny blamed Vinny for the Deon fiasco? Anyway, I liked the interview. I believe that he's letting Gibbs run the show. And it can't hurt to have two papers in town competing to have the best skins coverage. __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-30-2005, 05:58 PM	#40
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Snyder Interview Being an out of town fan I only have the Post and Times websites to depend on for Redskins "news" so I don't really care about the politics of who is in bed with the FO or not.. Bottom line the Post needs to remember is Journalism 101, it's more important to be right than first.

03-30-2005, 11:25 PM	#44
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Snyder Interview I think the fact that we've had some success with a GM so people feel a GM will bring back success. I'm part of that crowd to an extent. Vinny is mainly a scout, and I don't like coaches with the say in player personel. I think they should have an opinion, but not everything. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-30-2005, 11:30 PM	#45
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Snyder Interview I hate me some Vinny Cerrato. He bends over backwards for Snyder too much. We should have kept Joe Mendes.

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