Around the League...Training Camp Style!

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Is there any chance the NFL goes back on this and actually hits Rice harder? So far I've seen articles about this suspension on ESPN, Yahoo, & Bleacher Report and all of them agree that this is a joke.

It really is. If I was to play devils advocate I would say that comparing drug test failures to domestic violence isn't fair because drugs can be tested for where you could argue domestic violence is harder to prove and a lot of times can amounts to he said, she said.

Of course then you think about the ridiculous number of arbitrary suspension and fines for lesser offenses that weren't caught on tape and all you're really left with is staring down at the ground while softly saying 'oh.'

Also for the record I'm tired in the comment section of every other athlete domestic violence story where there's a handful of guys that immediately jump on the 'oh she wants money and is faking it' bandwagon.

I'm all for waiting until the facts come out especially since being a woman beater, at least in theory, should be only slightly better than carrying the labels of rapist and pedestrian. However this whole 'accusing every woman that accuses athletes of domestic violence is looking for a pay day' crowd is really getting on my nerves.

[SirLK26]

Andre Johnson shows up for Houston Texans camp - NFL.com

Just for the sake of this guy, I'm hoping the Texans make the playoffs. I think if Foster's back and the O-line is solid, especially at RT, they'll at least make a push.

[Alvin Walton]

[MTK]

Shanahan is just unreal.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shanahan is just unreal.

You really need to give that "the ego" avatar up to Shanny if he ever joins the board.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You really need to give that "the ego" avatar up to Shanny if he ever joins the board.

Or replace the Easter Island head with Shanny's in the avatar.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shanahan is just unreal.

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

The only part of his situation that was no-win was the bogus salary cap penalty, other than that, he had basically free reign. If that is a no win situation then he should not coach again.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The only part of his situation that was no-win was the bogus psalary cap penalty, other than that, he had basically free reign. If that is a no win situation then he should not coach again.

I never said anything close to that .

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

Dude had total control here, end of the day he just didn't get it done. Just like his last 3 yrs in Denver that got him canned. Worst part is he never takes any blame.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Dude had total control here, end of the day he just didn't get it done. Just like his last 3 yrs in Denver that got him canned. Worst part is he never takes any blame.

I understand all I was doing was pointing out what the thought process was outside the Washington area .He has ,John Elway , Steve Young and Peyton Manning singing his praises , he will get another job .

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty I realize you and other fans don't like him , not arguing with anyone just want to point out that around the league he is look on as pretty good coach who was in a no win situation in Washington .

No he's not. Around the league everyone knows this was his show. And they all watched him run BS cover for his son, who I like a lot as a coordinator btw, because Kyle couldn't make the situation worth here with 2 QBs. The shade Shanny threw behind the scenes was shameful. Doubt he ever gets a look again.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No he's not. Around the league everyone knows this was his show. And they all watched him run BS cover for his son, who I like a lot as a coordinator btw, because Kyle couldn't make the situation worth here with 2 QBs. The shade Shanny threw behind the scenes was shameful. Doubt he ever gets a look again.

Not according to the NFL network .

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Not according to the NFL network .

He couldn't win here even though he had full control over the team. Like CRedskins said, if that constitutes a no-win situation for him, he obviously shouldn't be hired again.

Anyway, he failed and was fired here, he failed and was fired in Oakland, and his Broncos team was floundering when he was fired there... I doubt he'll get another job.

[HoustonSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Not according to the NFL network .

Lol. NFL Network is a joke.

Most opposing team fans I knew were very skeptical of the Shamahan hire when it happened, because of his mediocre last few seasons in Denver. Being a pretty big Homer, I defended him as well as Haslett... But it seems as if they were right. And they may be right about Haz; he's got one more season to turn it around. An improved offense will help out the D, but there were some fundamental problems last year. Tackling, for example, was atrocious.

He just doesn't have what it takes as a talent evaluator; outside of Dumervil and Clady, he didn't really hit on any draft picks in his last 4 or 5 drafts (edit: in Denver). Awful.