Wade Phillips to Interview with the Redskins

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This is sounding like when Shanahan was hired. And how did that turn out? But he's been to 2 SB's, blah, blah, blah.

No. The counter to the "he's won 2 SB's" and the critique of Shanny was "What has he done lately?" and "He didn't win without Elway."

The counter to WP's track record of success, however, is not tied to any particular lack of success. Rather, the critique of WP is simply "I want an up-and-comer not some old guy" and "He's too nice we need someone who yells at players."

Further, unlike Shanny, WP has succeeded as a DC at every stop, has succeeded with average talent, and his success is not tied to any single player.

But, he's not coaching or playing on the west coast so he really can't be any good.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No. The counter to the "he's won 2 SB's" and the critique of Shanny was "What has he done lately?" and "He didn't win without Elway."

The counter to WP's track record of success, however, is not tied to any particular lack of success. Rather, the critique of WP is simply "I want an up-and-comer not some old guy" and "He's too nice we need someone who yells at players."

Further, unlike Shanny, WP has succeeded as a DC at every stop, has succeeded with average talent, and his success is not tied to any single player.

But, he's not coaching or playing on the west coast so he really can't be any good.

Well said. Wade is a good choice and is not the problem.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This is completely speculative, you have no idea if Norton can motivate better than Phillips, you're now just saying things with no factual basis.

Don't overthink it, Wade's resume is what it is for a reason.

Of course it's speculative. I'm saying that he's a former player that comes from a winning organization that has a great defense. They're fundamentally sound and tackle well. All reasons to give him an interview. He'll have the players respect the minute he walks in the door. Probably won't happen as they're only looking at 3-4 guys.

[MTK]

Phillips would be an AJ Smith move, not Allen.

[JoeRedskin]

Who's to say there isn't an up and comer on the D staff now? Olividotti and Baker have gotten good reviews both inside the franchise and from local media.

What's wrong with WP coming in, giving these guys a little more time to learn the craft and then move one of them up?

Not saying it's going to happen or "the plan," but maybe we could hold on to our own "up-and-comers" rather than rushing out to get the next big thing?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Who's to say there isn't an up and comer on the D staff now? Olividotti and Baker have gotten good reviews both inside the franchise and from local media.

What's wrong with WP coming in, giving these guys a little more time to learn the craft and then move one of them up?

Not saying it's going to happen or "the plan," but maybe we could hold on to our own "up-and-comers" rather than rushing out to get the next big thing?

I mentioned those 2 and both should be given a chance to interview, why not give one a chance instead of losing them to another team.

[That Guy]

WP is super well qualified but we can't hire him cause he's not under 30? he wasn't a great HC, so we can't use him as a consistent top 10 DC? AJ smith knows him, so that makes it a bad idea?

man, there's some weird/weak sh*t going on in here. in a vacuum, who are the best DC's you could hire for 2015? probably WP and rex (who doesn't want to be a DC). so... if they're available, hire them. it's pretty simple. if grilliams was available, i'd take him too. he never did us wrong.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by That Guy

WP is super well qualified but we can't hire him cause he's not under 30? he wasn't a great HC, so we can't use him as a consistent top 10 DC? AJ smith knows him, so that makes it a bad idea?

man, there's some weird/weak sh*t going on in here. in a vacuum, who are the best DC's you could hire for 2015? probably WP and rex (who doesn't want to be a DC). so... if they're available, hire them. it's pretty simple. if grilliams was available, i'd take him too. he never did us wrong.

Again, my point is subtler than, "AJ smith knows him, so that makes it a bad idea." Wade is a good DC.

Why not have a more open process where we give folks with good records that we don't know personally so well a fair shake? If Wade really is the best guy for the job, the end result is the same.

[Ruhskins]

Bill Belichick, one of the most successful coaches in the league, has hired and re-hired people he knows. Everyone in the NFL gets hired because they know someone. I don't understand why is it so hard for people to comprehend this.

That being said, Wade Phillips is one of the best DCs in the NFL. I remember the year he went to Houston and made them into an elite defense on their first year of switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4.

[SmootSmack]

I can totally understand the argument for wanting to play the process out. For one thing, it doesn't sound like Phillips is meeting with several other teams and there's a bidding war for him. I don't get the argument that Wade is a nice guy and therefore destined to fail here

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

If I hear that "if we had a real GM" line one more time.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If I hear that "if we had a real GM" line one more time.

the one I can't stand is we need a new owner...people just need to give up on Snyder selling the team

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If I hear that "if we had a real GM" line one more time.

"real GM" = short hand for someone who knows personnel and has ultimate decision making power = exactly what this franchise has needed = exactly what this fanbase and experts have been calling for for a long time now.

the term "real GM" will not go away until ... (wait for it) ... we get a real GM.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If I hear that "if we had a real GM" line one more time.

You are right. We need a "good" GM, not a "real" GM.

Since Bruce still holds both the title and the reins, regardless of what happens with AJ, we'll have to wait at least 358 days to get one.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You are right. We need a "good" GM, not a "real" GM.

Since Bruce still holds both the title and the reins, regardless of what happens with AJ, we'll have to wait at least 358 days to get one.

I am just gonna start filling up my ignore list. Fun fact up until October of last year, it only had one person on it.