Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


Draft Reaction

Locker Room Main Forum


View Poll Results: Instant over-analysis: Grade the Redskins' 2015 draft
A 24 36.92%
B 38 58.46%
C 2 3.08%
D 0 0%
F 1 1.54%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-05-2015, 10:52 AM   #1
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 35,022
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
Undraftable... yet he played two consecutive seasons without missing a game.

What am I not understanding?
if you fail the team's physical, you are taken off their draft board. I dont know, I feel comfortable he was able to play he junior and senior years...and especially with Callahan on board.
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 11:57 AM   #2
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 46
Posts: 12,458
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
if you fail the team's physical, you are taken off their draft board. I dont know, I feel comfortable he was able to play he junior and senior years...and especially with Callahan on board.
Well yeah, thanks for that. What I'm asking is why he failed. Just doesn't make sense, how could he play two straight years without an issue but fail physicals?
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 10:27 AM   #3
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 52
Posts: 99,832
Re: Draft Reaction

Good stuff on Jones, I think we're really going to like him. Good blocker, underrated catching balls out of the backfield.

A closer look at Redskins’ third-round running back Matt Jones - The Washington Post
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 10:50 AM   #4
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 46
Posts: 12,458
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
Good stuff on Jones, I think we're really going to like him. Good blocker, underrated catching balls out of the backfield.

A closer look at Redskins’ third-round running back Matt Jones - The Washington Post
Love it. Different skill set than Morris, a complimentary one.

Morris on early downs and Jones on 3rd? Keeps 'em both fresh.
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 11:00 AM   #5
KI Skins Fan
Pro Bowl
 
KI Skins Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Jacksonville, Forida
Posts: 6,412
Re: Draft Reaction

I don't understand why some people are down on Moses and Long. They both have the physical traits you want. Some players just need a little more time to develop. We'll see where they are in training camp.
__________________
I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!
KI Skins Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 12:12 PM   #6
SirLK26
The Starter
 
SirLK26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,141
Re: Draft Reaction

NFL draft: Alabama OL Arie Kouandjio has a master’s degree plan - The Washington Post

Quote:
He soon learned that tendinitis had worn off 90 percent of the patella tendon in his right knee and 60 percent of the muscle in his left knee, leading doctors to recommend a double operation that jeopardized his football career.
Arie Kouandjio, OG, Alabama, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Quote:
WEAKNESSES: <snip> Serious medical concerns after multiple knee surgeries to both knees.
He may be fine now, but teams were probably worried about his long-range durability.
SirLK26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 12:14 PM   #7
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 52
Posts: 99,832
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirLK26 View Post

Yeah I can see long term concerns, but for some teams if he can play 4-5 years that's enough to give him a shot.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 08:01 AM   #8
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 46
Posts: 12,458
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirLK26 View Post
OK thank you these are very helpful details.

Well either it didn't bother him the last two years, or he's tough as nails to fight through the pain. I guess we'll find out if it's a wear and tear issue going forward.
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 09:24 PM   #9
30gut
Playmaker
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,323
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
...what do you think?....
What pick did you like? Where do you have questions?
Solid draft.
Schreff provides an instant boost to the OL at RT.

I like the Preston Smith signing a lot. Big bodied atheltic pass rusher.
( Personal pet peeve nothing irks me more then when a edge rusher is stood up/stale mated by a RB and big bodied pass rushers like Smith win against a RB every time.) Smith physique and playing style remind me of Michael Bennett and I imagine that's how he'll be used regardless of what they call him OLB or whatever. I see him a situational pass rusher in sub packages (and since teams are in nickel/known pass situations ~70% of the time anyway) rushing from the edge or bumped down over a guard.

Kerrigan-Hatcher-Paea-Smith or even Kerrigan-Hatcher-Smith-Murphy/Trev Williams

My favorite picks are probably won't even play much this year: Kysheon Jarrett and Martell Spaight (sp) in another thread I listed Martell as one of the prospects that I liked and it was because he's a tackling machine and he brings 'pop' to his tackles. Kysheon is an underrated S in this class. Can play Free and Strong is a willing tacklers and has decent size for a FS (small for a SS) Kysheon reminds me of a (faster) TJ Ward/Donte Whitner.

I don't get the Matt Jones pick he seems like a less talented version of Morris and there were other quality backs/players on the board when he was picked.
I'll have to go back and look at his games.

I like the Arie K pick because we need help at the OG position and throwing bodies at it is a good way to address it. Between Moses, Compton, Long and Kouandjio someone has got to supplant Chester.

I'm meh on Crowder, size deficient and speed deficient when you consider his size. Maybe he can upgrade the return units and that alone would be well worth the selection.

I like the gamble on the Tevin Mitchell kid, could be a slot/nickel specialist but with his measurables...he could be more.

Overall I think the team got better with this draft.
Adding 1 sure starter in Schreff and another heavy contributor to the defense/pass rush in Preston Smith.

Addressed depth/special teams with the other selections. It may be a stretch to call a special teammer a 'starter' but from the looks of things Spencer, especially, is gonna a core special teams player and Spaight and Jarrett should be too.
30gut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 12:38 AM   #10
SirLK26
The Starter
 
SirLK26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,141
Re: Draft Reaction

Crowder's combine numbers are not indicative of his real playing speed. He's no DJax, but he'll easily be one of the fastest players on the field. His quickness and agility are unbelievable.
SirLK26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 02:59 AM   #11
Kindoy
The Starter
 
Kindoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Culver City, CA
Posts: 1,013
Re: Draft Reaction

I know people were talking about Kyshoen in another thread, not sure if these videos have been shared. Quality.



__________________
RIP 21
Kindoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 06:34 AM   #12
30gut
Playmaker
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,323
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirLK26 View Post
Crowder's combine numbers are not indicative of his real playing speed. He's no DJax, but he'll easily be one of the fastest players on the field. His quickness and agility are unbelievable.
I agree Crowder will probably be one of the quickest dudes on the field but easily one of the fastest? Nah, not even on our team.
30gut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 08:04 AM   #13
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 46
Posts: 12,458
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by 30gut View Post
I agree Crowder will probably be one of the quickest dudes on the field but easily one of the fastest? Nah, not even on our team.
You don't need to be straight line fast from the slot, it's more important to be quick. The speed from Desean and Pierre on the outside opens up so much for Crowder. Teams will need to get up in Crowder's face to disrupt him or he'll tear them up on short slants.

And of course once they get up in his face then you have a mismatch with either Pierre or Deseaon, or Reed over the middle.
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 06:06 PM   #14
30gut
Playmaker
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,323
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneed10 View Post
You don't need to be straight line fast from the slot, it's more important to be quick. ...
Of course, never said a receiver needed to be straight line fast. Just disagree with the statement you made that Crowder is easily one of the fastest on the team.

In my view the best thing Crowder had going from him is he didn't play in a spread so NFL routes and terminology won't be new to him.

But even more then that his quickness should be an asset in special teams punt/kick return.

If he can challenge Roberts for the slot? Awesome.

I like the kid, anyone with the last name Crowder is good with me.

30gut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2015, 10:32 AM   #15
Schneed10
A Dude
 
Schneed10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Age: 46
Posts: 12,458
Re: Draft Reaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by 30gut View Post
Of course, never said a receiver needed to be straight line fast. Just disagree with the statement you made that Crowder is easily one of the fastest on the team.
I didn't say that, someone else did. I was just pointing out that it's irrelevant to the discussion.
__________________
God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.
Schneed10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 1.10089 seconds with 11 queries