Jordan Reed

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

. , there's very little reason to believe he'll be one of the very rare folks to be forced out due to brain health.

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Do you think there are many guys so early on in their careers that have already suffered so many concussions? Maybe there are? His particular situation would appear to me as a bit extreme at this point....

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you think there are many guys so early on in their careers that have already suffered so many concussions? Maybe there are? His particular situation would appear to me as a bit extreme at this point....

Show me some data to support that statement.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Show me some data to support that statement.

What that 6 concussions in year four is a lot?

[punch it in]

I just want to say one thing. If Reed was my son or brother or whatever I would seriously consider talking him into retirement. It is painfully obvious what repeated brain injuries can do to a person LATER ON in their life. Of course as a Redskin fan I want him out there. Of course as a young standout star in the league Reed wants to be out there. So bad that he has admittedly hid his injuries in the past.
Schneed When you say "there is no factual basis to start talking about it ending his career early" - well yes...there is no law that states you must retire when you reach a certain amount of concussions. HOWEVER there is plenty of factual basis for it being a huge issue in the years to come. So, that being said I dont think it is "over reaction" it is concern. Reed is a kid who is on track to be a great nfl player and make a boatload of money. Of course he doesn't want to retire. Ask Junior Seau if he could go back and retire early- would he? Whoops can't ask him. Tons of others dealing with it now that you could ask though.

[over the mountain]

The tight end said that his family has expressed concern about his health, as have Redskins coaches and officials.

“[My family members] are always going to show concern and stuff like that because they care more about my health than anything, but I’ve got to take care of my family, so I’ve got to do what I’ve got to do,” Reed said.

Asked about his fear of long-term damage, Reed said, “It comes into my mind sometimes, but I pray a lot and I’ve got faith in the Lord that I’ll be all right, so that’s how I think.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-ravens-game/

To say 5 or 6 concussions for a 4th year player is not a concern is just plain silly. He seems to understand the risk vs reward and right now, he views the risk as a necessary element for providing for his family. A few years from now and another concussion or two .. maybe the scales tip towards retirement.
I think we all agree we wish him the best and hope Burfict doesnt cheap shot him in London.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

The tight end said that his family has expressed concern about his health, as have Redskins coaches and officials.

“[My family members] are always going to show concern and stuff like that because they care more about my health than anything, but I’ve got to take care of my family, so I’ve got to do what I’ve got to do,” Reed said.

Asked about his fear of long-term damage, Reed said, “It comes into my mind sometimes, but I pray a lot and I’ve got faith in the Lord that I’ll be all right, so that’s how I think.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-ravens-game/

To say 5 or 6 concussions for a 4th year player is not a concern is just plain silly. He seems to understand the risk vs reward and right now, he views the risk as a necessary element for providing for his family. A few years from now and another concussion or two .. maybe the scales tip towards retirement.
I think we all agree we wish him the best and hope Burfict doesnt cheap shot him in London.

The man upstairs is his doctor...no worries, he'll be fine

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The man upstairs is his doctor...no worries, he'll be fine

Rite.....and he has to take care of his family? Dudes already made more than i will for the rest of my life. Please.

[Defensewins]

Yes, if Jordan Reed does not care about his future health and cares more about the money, that is his choice to make. Nobody can make that decision for him.
But the team can decide as some point that enough is enough.
It is scientifically proven that your brain become more susceptible to concussion with each subsequent concussion. Your brain becomes weaker and more loose in your head, you do not recover from that or have a surgery to correct it like a loose joint.
If things continue on their current track there will reach a point that his concussions will be more and more frequent. He will miss more time and the team may decide they do want to invest a multi-Million dollar salary cap slot on a player that if you breath on him too heavy will get a concussion and miss significant time.
That is when it becomes ok for the FO and skins fans to talk about this serious situation.
Yes, today Reed is probably ok and for now on his way to recovery. But a 26 year old having at least 6 concussions and he plays NFL football, it is probable that he will get hit hard on the head again soon and this repeats.
I hope he is smart enough to start looking now at optional careers after football.

[CRedskinsRule]

Overreaction city actually has a population of 2. IMO Reed should retire. Not because the 6th concussion in and of itself demands it, but because his future self and life is worth it.

If he has had 6 concussions in his NFL career, how many did he have in college? HS? How many more will he have before one sets him down by it's choosing and not his own.

If he chooses to play I will cheer at every first down he pulls out.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Overreaction city actually has a population of 2. IMO Reed should retire. Not because the 6th concussion in and of itself demands it, but because his future self and life is worth it.

If he has had 6 concussions in his NFL career, how many did he have in college? HS? How many more will he have before one sets him down by it's choosing and not his own.

If he chooses to play I will cheer at every first down he pulls out.

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.



He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid.

I hear what you are saying completely. It is ultimately up to the player. Remember that only recently did the nfl make this a serious issue though. Therefore there probably isn't a whole lot of data on guys retiring early because of it. All the old timers found out after they were already effed up. You have a few that have walked away since so much light was cast on the problem. As research becomes clearer and these guys make more money faster you will see more make that decision.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I hear what you are saying completely. It is ultimately up to the player. Remember that only recently did the nfl make this a serious issue though. Therefore there probably isn't a whole lot of data on guys retiring early because of it. All the old timers found out after they were already effed up. You have a few that have walked away since so much light was cast on the problem. As research becomes clearer and these guys make more money faster you will see more make that decision.

All fair assumptions to make. But probably not applicable to Jordan Reed specifically, since he said he plans to continue playing.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid[/B].

Since there really isn't any reliable data on player concussions over the last 50 years, you have a wonderful world of denial built for yourself.

Simple question:
Can multiple concussions over a period of few years affect a player's physical abilities?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Since there really isn't any reliable data on player concussions over the last 50 years, you have a wonderful world of denial built for yourself.

Simple question:
Can multiple concussions over a period of few years affect a player's physical abilities?

Yes, though as evidenced by years and years of boxing, those effects don't typically set in until much later in life, after the athlete has long passed his playing days. There is very little history, proportionally speaking, of players and boxers having their physical abilities compromised until they are in their 40s, 50s, and beyond.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed will have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career against the player's will, then this is stupid.

I reiterate, no one has said that on this thread.

So what?
This is a discussion board, we're discussing, or stating opinions and making future predictions, thats what sports fans do.