New 4th and 15 rule..................

[HTTR]

Why is any team that just scored entitled to get the ball back through some kind of gimmick? This is video game thinking, not football. You’re supposed to play football for 60 minutes and the team that’s ahead wins.

If you want a gimmick that is as random as a 4th and 15 rule, make it a good one: Hand to hand combat on the 50 yard line between either the kicker or the punter of the scoring team and any player chosen by the team that’s ahead. Winner gets the ball on the 20.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HTTR

Why is any team that just scored entitled to get the ball back through some kind of gimmick? This is video game thinking, not football. You’re supposed to play football for 60 minutes and the team that’s ahead wins.

If you want a gimmick that is as random as a 4th and 15 rule, make it a good one: Hand to hand combat on the 50 yard line between either the kicker or the punter of the scoring team and any player chosen by the team that’s ahead. Winner gets the ball on the 20.

Isn’t an onsides kick a gimmick of sorts?

They’re just trying to replace a play that’s become obsolete.



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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Isn’t an onsides kick a gimmick of sorts?

They’re just trying to replace a play that’s become obsolete.



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Not really IMO. An onside kick is still a kickoff. The same rules apply in both plays. It's just that you kick the ball differently...

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by MTK

Isn’t an onsides kick a gimmick of sorts?

They’re just trying to replace a play that’s become obsolete.



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Yes, the onsides kick is a gimmick of sorts. A more consistent rule would be to make punts and kickoffs the same — live ball only if it is touched by the receiving team. It’s a fundamental part of football that the other team gets possession after you score.

But whatever you think about the current onsides kick situation, let’s not go further down the gimmick rabbit hole. It’s pandering to the idea that your sorry ass team still has a chance to win with few minutes left no matter what the score.

[skinsnut]

How about counting a kickoff through the uprights as a 4 point field goal? Is this even possible? I think I have seen this happen?

[JPPT1974]

Would be nice but it would be kind of confusing that four point field goal rule but you may be onto something my friend.

[MTK]

I like the idea of a 4 point FG, maybe at least 57 yards out?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

I like the idea of a 4 point FG, maybe at least 57 yards out?

So if a team is down 4 in the closing seconds at the other teams 20 do they try to score a touchdown or does the QB take a 20 yard loss on a sack and try to make a kick to tie?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

So if a team is down 4 in the closing seconds at the other teams 20 do they try to score a touchdown or does the QB take a 20 yard loss on a sack and try to make a kick to tie?

A coach is going to look really dumb in that scenario giving up a chance to win the game in the red zone vs trying to tie the game don’t you think



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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

A coach is going to look really dumb in that scenario giving up a chance to win the game in the red zone vs trying to tie the game don’t you think



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That was an extreme issue, but I could see someone doing something to back up if it was close.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

So if a team is down 4 in the closing seconds at the other teams 20 do they try to score a touchdown or does the QB take a 20 yard loss on a sack and try to make a kick to tie?

Far fetched but I like your point. Basically it penalizes a defense for making a stop on their 40 compared to making a stop on their 30...