The Rage Thread

[Warthog]

Cant' understand the rage here. Most of the "experts" gave the Redskins very high grades for this draft - which is VERY UNUSUAL. I'd rather roll the dice on Haskins, considered by many as the best QB of the draft, than sitting and watching Smith / McCoy / Keenum win just enough squeakers to keep us from getting a really high draft number.

We need a real, LONG-TERM, FRANCHISE QB. I think Haskins is that man. But I'd rather watch Haskins pull a Heath Shuler than spend a season following a has-been, old QB like Smith or McCoy bring us to 5 or 6 wins.

Sometimes you need to go for it. A franchise QB is how you win in the NFL.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Cant' understand the rage here. Most of the "experts" gave the Redskins very high grades for this draft - which is VERY UNUSUAL. I'd rather roll the dice on Haskins, considered by many as the best QB of the draft, than sitting and watching Smith / McCoy / Keenum win just enough squeakers to keep us from getting a really high draft number.

We need a real, LONG-TERM, FRANCHISE QB. I think Haskins is that man. But I'd rather watch Haskins pull a Heath Shuler than spend a season following a has-been, old QB like Smith or McCoy bring us to 5 or 6 wins.

Sometimes you need to go for it. A franchise QB is how you win in the NFL.

This was a response to picking Haskins, who I'm not sold on. The rest of the draft was as good as it gets IMO. Still, even though I'm not sold on Haskins it's basically 50/50 as to whether it was a good move, and I'd love to be wrong about it.

We might as well rename this the overreaction thread, because that's what I was doing.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

This was a response to picking Haskins, who I'm not sold on. The rest of the draft was as good as it gets IMO. Still, even though I'm not sold on Haskins it's basically 50/50 as to whether it was a good move, and I'd love to be wrong about it.

We might as well rename this the overreaction thread, because that's what I was doing.

This wasn't a Rage against the Machine fan page thread?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by mooby

This was a response to picking Haskins, who I'm not sold on. The rest of the draft was as good as it gets IMO. Still, even though I'm not sold on Haskins it's basically 50/50 as to whether it was a good move, and I'd love to be wrong about it.

We might as well rename this the overreaction thread, because that's what I was doing.

That's all football fans ever do, you're welcome to it. Just don't start a thread with the opening post being 'for ga da da' and you're good. It's a high bar around here.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by mooby

This was a response to picking Haskins, who I'm not sold on. The rest of the draft was as good as it gets IMO. Still, even though I'm not sold on Haskins it's basically 50/50 as to whether it was a good move, and I'd love to be wrong about it.

We might as well rename this the overreaction thread, because that's what I was doing.

There are no guarantees in the draft. I seem to remember someone did a study and found out that only a third of the first and second round draft picks are in the NFL five years later. I'd rather the Redskins shoot for the future franchise and possibly star QB in the draft than watch them spend a ton of cap money on a QB who is over 35 years old. Someone who keeps us around .500, but never better.

Of the three QB picked in the 2019 NFL draft in the first round, I think Haskins was the best choice. I'm a lot more excited to watch how he does over the next few years, then to see the Redskins run by an aging, decent QB (even before this horrific leg injury).
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[los panda]

Anyone want to play some Primal Rage? I can't afford it for PS1 but I'd buy it for Sega Genesis.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by los panda

Anyone want to play some Primal Rage? I can't afford it for PS1 but I'd buy it for Sega Genesis.

I had the original Sega Master System before Genesis. Good ole Duck Hunt and Shinobi.

That was like 30 years ago. FML!!

[REDSKINS4ever]

The Redskins won't be picking up Josh Doctson's 5th year option....this doesn't mean that they won't try to give him a deal in the offseason if he has a 95 catch 1500 yards with 12 TDs performance in 2019....but I'm glad that the Redskins are making a fuckin healthy football decision on this soft ass 1st round bust.....

https://247sports.com/nfl/washington...on--131700083/

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins won't be picking up Josh Doctson's 5th year option....this doesn't mean that they won't try to give him a deal in the offseason if he has a 95 catch 1500 yards with 12 TDs performance in 2019....but I'm glad that the Redskins are making a fuckin healthy football decision on this soft ass 1st round bust.....

https://247sports.com/nfl/washington...on--131700083/

Agreed. He is a draft bust and the only reason he's still playing is because the team let go of 1,000 WR like Garcon, Desean Jackson and Crowder. I never understood why we let go of BOTH Jackson and Garcon and kept Doctson.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Agreed. He is a draft bust and the only reason he's still playing is because the team let go of 1,000 WR like Garcon, Desean Jackson and Crowder. I never understood why we let go of BOTH Jackson and Garcon and kept Doctson.

I think the way things have shaken out with both Garcon and DJax, we made the right move in letting them go. The problem is we didn't replace them properly.

Doctson was a poor selection period, but there were significant amount of others in that draft who haven't worked out:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/nfl...alysis-results

That's a poor first round. The first five picks were great, after that, look out how poor it was.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think the way things have shaken out with both Garcon and DJax, we made the right move in letting them go. The problem is we didn't replace them properly.

Doctson was a poor selection period, but there were significant amount of others in that draft who haven't worked out:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/nfl...alysis-results

That's a poor first round. The first five picks were great, after that, look out how poor it was.

That A grade on Doctson stings. Just goes to show how pointless grading drafts immediately afterwards is.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think the way things have shaken out with both Garcon and DJax, we made the right move in letting them go. The problem is we didn't replace them properly.

Doctson was a poor selection period, but there were significant amount of others in that draft who haven't worked out:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/nfl...alysis-results

That's a poor first round. The first five picks were great, after that, look out how poor it was.

Interesting. Why were you happy about letting go of Desean and Garcon? I mean D. Jackson still has enough juice that the Eagles resigned him this season? I mean they were both 1,000 yd WR and we didn't really replace them.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Interesting. Why were you happy about letting go of Desean and Garcon? I mean D. Jackson still has enough juice that the Eagles resigned him this season? I mean they were both 1,000 yd WR and we didn't really replace them.

I would just point to their contracts and their production. I don't think either of them were worth the money they got.

I was so happy that we didn't pay them what they ended up getting from the 49ers and Bucs.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Interesting. Why were you happy about letting go of Desean and Garcon? I mean D. Jackson still has enough juice that the Eagles resigned him this season? I mean they were both 1,000 yd WR and we didn't really replace them.

Well there wasn’t an emotional high when I found out both DJax and Garçon were not returning. But what we found since, it was the right move...neither performed close to their contract. But we didn’t effectively replace them and this is why Bruce isn’t good at how to team build, you need to be drafting and developing all the time.



Big side note...thank you for your service!

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins won't be picking up Josh Doctson's 5th year option....this doesn't mean that they won't try to give him a deal in the offseason if he has a 95 catch 1500 yards with 12 TDs performance in 2019....but I'm glad that the Redskins are making a fuckin healthy football decision on this soft ass 1st round bust.....

https://247sports.com/nfl/washington...on--131700083/

That is about 3 years production out of Doctson.