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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

RK played but he was ghost all game

Like the offense.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Like the offense.

Yeah man that was brutal to watch

[Meks]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

RK played but he was ghost all game

Every other week this is normal you should know that.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Murray makes it extremely hard on the pass rush. Him and Kingsbury are a match made in football heaven. Not gonna be easy to sack him all year. He is on a R. Wilson trajectory.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Murray makes it extremely hard on the pass rush. Him and Kingsbury are a match made in football heaven. Not gonna be easy to sack him all year. He is on a R. Wilson trajectory.

Add in a threat like D. Hop to that offense, I think they are going to be an extremely competitive team and likely playoff bound.

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[Chief X_Phackter]

I cannot argue with any of that. However, if there was even a little bit of WFT offense in the 1st three quarters, this game would have been so much different.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I cannot argue with any of that. However, if there was even a little bit of WFT offense in the 1st three quarters, this game would have been so much different.

I really wish they had leaned on the running game more earlier in the game.

Also they gotta find a way to compensate for the shitty o-line play.

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[OnceWeWereKings]

Haskins is incredibly inaccurate. That is our main offensive woe. The line sucks, yes...but even when given time he's throwing over or behind receivers. He started to settle in in the 3rd(?) Quarter....but it seems like his inaccuracy is a trend.
I'll go on record and say I haven't been a fan since he was disappointed that we drafted him. Hope he does well, but i just don't like him, or think he's the guy.

[Meks]

We don't have an offense 😕

[mooby]

Lotta doom and gloom after yesterday.

We found out how good this team could be in week 1, now we found out how bad this team could be in a week 2.

It will be a year of growing pains, and hopefully progress. But in weeks where our offensive line looks like trash I don't expect to see competitive football. Haskins is never going to be a guy that can succeed in spite of his o-line.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by mooby

Lotta doom and gloom after yesterday.

We found out how good this team could be in week 1, now we found out how bad this team could be in a week 2.

It will be a year of growing pains, and hopefully progress. But in weeks where our offensive line looks like trash I don't expect to see competitive football. Haskins is never going to be a guy that can succeed in spite of his o-line.

This. I think some of us have a reasonable take on what's likely this year and some have just too much expectation.

Firstly talking about Herbert having a good first game is dumb for 3 reasons; 1) he had 4 years of starting in college (though he was good from the get go), 2) he has an established O around him with a good OL and some of the best skill position players around him and 3) he still made dumb decisions. His field position awareness was lacking; he unnecessarily threw the ball into traffic while running when he was 3 yards from the 1st down marker with nobody in front of him and they were in the lead. And his INT was ugly.

And no QB is going to light up the scoreboard with a Swiss cheese OL. I only caught the plays that they showed on Redzone, but I saw multiple plays where he had less than 2 seconds to pass. On a designed quick pass that's OK, but on 3rd and 10, if you can't give your QB at least 3 seconds you are most likely to be 4th and 10 or worse. Leaving 2 extra blockers in isn't the answer because any decent secondary should shut down 3 WR's all day, especially when only rushing 4 or 5. The OL has to improve if we're to get more than 4-6 wins.

And I can't blame the D. We still got 3 sacks (albeit only 1 from a DL) against a QB who's like trying to trying to catch mist. What is a little concerning is that Drake managed over 4y per carry, though I believe he was largely bottled up in the 1st half? Murray getting big yardage isn't a surprise as most of his running yardage comes off broken plays. I do however agree that its surprising we didn't spy him more. Tough one really because if you take an LB or DB out of coverage to spy him, Hopkins etc. will have a field day...

I'm taking some positives from this, and seeing them as what RR will build on as the season goes forward and into the offseason decisions:

1) McLaurin is the real deal, the one shining light on O.
Sims is a good enough #2 (forget Inman) or #3 if we can get better #2 in the offseason. I'd build a WR crew around them and ditch everyone else as better guys come in.
2) Gibson is a keeper, maybe McKissick. I see why RR thought AP was a luxury we didn't need. He wouldn't do better behind this OL and he'd be taking reps from guys that should be the future.
3) CY is the real deal AND he elevates the rest of the DL. We need to find LB's and DB's to back up the DL play. Fuller and Moreland should be the only ones with anything like a guarantee to be here next year.
4) Haskins hasn't thrown an INT yet; for all his inaccuracy he's trying to put the ball where only his guy can catch it, albeit that he's not doing a great job. But I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt through a lack of experience. I think he can and will improve (though it may take a revamped OL).

[skinsfaninok]

Not good

[skinsfaninok]

John Clayton said on the morning drive today that if the draft happened today he'd go

Murray
Mindshew
Lock
Jones
Haskins

Can't argue that

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

John Clayton said on the morning drive today that if the draft happened today he'd go

Murray
Minshew
Lock
Jones
Haskins

Can't argue that

The bottom two QBs on this list are playing for their second HC in their second year. And that's probably one of the reasons why Jones is 0-2 and Haskins stunk it up yesterday.

We're in a rebuilding year and people already want to get rid of Haskins? If RR had drafted a rookie QB, I'd be all for getting rid of Haskins. But that's not the case.

If people were willing to give Cousins mediocre ass 4 years and put up a ton of excuses for him, we can give Haskins a full season to see if he's worth keeping.

[skinsfan69]

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1259628]The bottom two QBs on this list are playing for their second HC in their second year. And that's probably one of the reasons why Jones is 0-2 and Haskins stunk it up yesterday.

We're in a rebuilding year and people already want to get rid of Haskins? If RR had drafted a rookie QB, I'd be all for getting rid of Haskins. But that's not the case.

If people were willing to give Cousins mediocre ass 4 years and put up a ton of excuses for him, we can give Haskins a full season to see if he's worth keeping.[/QUOTE

two different scenarios... - the difference is Cousins was not drafted here to start. he was drafted as a backup in the 4th round. he spot started for 3 years as insurance for rg until he won the job. but even in his spot starts kirk had some huge games. kirk's first start has easily been better than anything we've seen from DH. you simply can not compare the two at all.