Alex Smith Cut (update: retired)

AnonEmouse · 03-01-2021, 02:34 PM

I know what I said the other day about his mobility, but that's no way my reflection on the man. He won't make the HoF as a QB, but I actually would like to see him coach and succeed at it. And fate willing, become a HoF coach. But if he chooses not to, I'd say whatever he does after football he'll be a success.

MTK · 03-02-2021, 10:56 AM

We stood a much better chance at winning games with him in the lineup than not. That's all I know.

AnonEmouse · 03-03-2021, 05:16 AM

I'd say looking at the stats alone is misleading. Were we likely to be consistent playoff contenders with Smith? Possibly and maybe likely. Would be be SB contenders and even winners? Unlikely.

What he brought were intangibles like leadership and improving the guys around him. What he didn't do was sling the ball around and light up the scoreboard. As a rule he wasn't going to make catastrophic mistakes and dig us into holes, but likewise he wasn't likely to dig us out of holes others put us in. He was a good bridge QB, and our problem is we didn't give him a Mahomes to learn from him and be the other side o the bridge.

Listening to Heinicke, you get the distinct impression he made the other QB's better (or at least feel better about themselves), the exception being DH. And DH could probably come out of a meeting with Joe Montana or Tom Brady and gain nothing from it.

We need to find a franchise level QB with those intangibles, but with the tools and capability to go to the next level. Better football minds can decide who that is.

JackLord · 03-03-2021, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I'd say looking at the stats alone is misleading. Were we likely to be consistent playoff contenders with Smith? Possibly and maybe likely. Would be be SB contenders and even winners? Unlikely.

What he brought were intangibles like leadership and improving the guys around him. What he didn't do was sling the ball around and light up the scoreboard. As a rule he wasn't going to make catastrophic mistakes and dig us into holes, but likewise he wasn't likely to dig us out of holes others put us in. He was a good bridge QB, and our problem is we didn't give him a Mahomes to learn from him and be the other side o the bridge.

Listening to Heinicke, you get the distinct impression he made the other QB's better (or at least feel better about themselves), the exception being DH. And DH could probably come out of a meeting with Joe Montana or Tom Brady and gain nothing from it.

We need to find a franchise level QB with those intangibles, but with the tools and capability to go to the next level. Better football minds can decide who that is.

Great post. Mahomes said as much about Alex's mentorship. Alex is a class act and exemplifies "team player" in its purest sense.

Scalper · 03-03-2021, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I'd say looking at the stats alone is misleading. Were we likely to be consistent playoff contenders with Smith? Possibly and maybe likely. Would be be SB contenders and even winners? Unlikely.

What he brought were intangibles like leadership and improving the guys around him. What he didn't do was sling the ball around and light up the scoreboard. As a rule he wasn't going to make catastrophic mistakes and dig us into holes, but likewise he wasn't likely to dig us out of holes others put us in. He was a good bridge QB, and our problem is we didn't give him a Mahomes to learn from him and be the other side o the bridge.

Listening to Heinicke, you get the distinct impression he made the other QB's better (or at least feel better about themselves), the exception being DH. And DH could probably come out of a meeting with Joe Montana or Tom Brady and gain nothing from it.

We need to find a franchise level QB with those intangibles, but with the tools and capability to go to the next level. Better football minds can decide who that is.

Exactly. The question is did we hire those football minds? Our two GMs both got QB wrong consistently throughout their career. Hope they get it right though and draft a franchise QB.

CRedskinsRule · 03-03-2021, 10:33 PM

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Exactly. The question is did we hire those football minds? Our two GMs both got QB wrong consistently throughout their career. Hope they get it right though and draft a franchise QB.

Our current staff brought Stafford, Newton, and PManning to their respective teams. How is that consistently getting it wrong.

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mooby · 03-05-2021, 07:39 AM

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Our current staff brought Stafford, Newton, and PManning to their respective teams. How is that consistently getting it wrong.

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What draft pick did they have?

MissouriSkin · 03-05-2021, 07:48 AM

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What draft pick did they have?

What difference does that make? People have gotten it wrong with the first pick too since that’s what you’re implying. Ever heard of JaMarcus Russell? People have gotten all sorts of picks wrong....Ryan Leaf...Akili Smith....Johnny Manziel....Brady Quinn.....

CRedskinsRule · 03-05-2021, 07:56 AM

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What draft pick did they have?

Yes i get that, but the statement I quoted claimed that Hurney and Mayhew got the qb position "consistently wrong". DS has gotten the qb position "consistently wrong " regardless of the draft pick used. My point was, when given the chance our 2 GMs and new vp of pro personnel clearly did NOT get the qb position wrong. Does that guarantee that, given FA options and our draft position, they will get it right- no, but it does mean they all know what qualities make up an nfl qb.

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MTK · 03-05-2021, 09:56 AM

Official

Washington releases Alex Smith

OnceWeWereKings · 03-05-2021, 05:17 PM

So long, Alex...and thanks for all the fish.

mooby · 03-05-2021, 09:36 PM

https://twitter.com/AlGaldi/status/1367899313515487233

I just came in here to share this, I thought it was an apt analogy lol.

Thanks for everything Alex.

MTK · 03-08-2021, 10:00 AM

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https://twitter.com/AlGaldi/status/1367899313515487233

I just came in here to share this, I thought it was an apt analogy lol.

Thanks for everything Alex.

lol, nothing solves a problem quite like a boot to the chin

AnonEmouse · 03-08-2021, 11:16 AM

I am curious how much truth there is to RR's statement. He said the team granted Alex's request to be released. I'm not so certain Alex asked for the release...

mooby · 03-08-2021, 11:27 AM

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I am curious how much truth there is to RR's statement. He said the team granted Alex's request to be released. I'm not so certain Alex asked for the release...

If you're gonna say something like that back it up with some evidence or something.

I think both parties were in agreement to move on.

03-01-2021, 02:34 PM	#1
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,643	Re: Alex Smith Cut I know what I said the other day about his mobility, but that's no way my reflection on the man. He won't make the HoF as a QB, but I actually would like to see him coach and succeed at it. And fate willing, become a HoF coach. But if he chooses not to, I'd say whatever he does after football he'll be a success.

03-02-2021, 10:56 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Alex Smith Cut We stood a much better chance at winning games with him in the lineup than not. That's all I know. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-03-2021, 05:16 AM	#3
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,643	Re: Alex Smith Cut I'd say looking at the stats alone is misleading. Were we likely to be consistent playoff contenders with Smith? Possibly and maybe likely. Would be be SB contenders and even winners? Unlikely. What he brought were intangibles like leadership and improving the guys around him. What he didn't do was sling the ball around and light up the scoreboard. As a rule he wasn't going to make catastrophic mistakes and dig us into holes, but likewise he wasn't likely to dig us out of holes others put us in. He was a good bridge QB, and our problem is we didn't give him a Mahomes to learn from him and be the other side o the bridge. Listening to Heinicke, you get the distinct impression he made the other QB's better (or at least feel better about themselves), the exception being DH. And DH could probably come out of a meeting with Joe Montana or Tom Brady and gain nothing from it. We need to find a franchise level QB with those intangibles, but with the tools and capability to go to the next level. Better football minds can decide who that is.

03-05-2021, 09:56 AM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Alex Smith Cut Official Washington releases Alex Smith __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-05-2021, 05:17 PM	#11
OnceWeWereKings The Starter Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Catasauqua, PA Age: 44 Posts: 1,406	Re: Alex Smith Cut So long, Alex...and thanks for all the fish. __________________ To beer, or not to beer? That is the ques.....oh, look...a beer.

03-05-2021, 09:36 PM	#12
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Alex Smith Cut https://twitter.com/AlGaldi/status/1367899313515487233 I just came in here to share this, I thought it was an apt analogy lol. Thanks for everything Alex. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-08-2021, 11:16 AM	#14
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,643	Re: Alex Smith Cut I am curious how much truth there is to RR's statement. He said the team granted Alex's request to be released. I'm not so certain Alex asked for the release...

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