Around the NFL Week 17

[Giantone]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
As part of the discussions that took place over the last few days, both sides concluded that it was best #Raiders QB Derek Carr step away the final two games to avoid the obvious distractions, sources say. He won’t practice and will be listed as “not injury related.”
5:17 PM · Dec 28, 2022

[Chico23231]

I want to see how Wentz does with a full arsenal and his ability to sit and learn in the offense

Imo, I dont think we should bring back Heinke next year especially at a cost of anything more than a back up.

From what I heard from beat reporters in camp, Howell resembled a younger Henike. So a back up?

I’m looking in the draft for more QB help and watching giving Wentz another shot to impress

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I want to see how Wentz does with a full arsenal and his ability to sit and learn in the offense

Imo, I dont think we should bring back Heinke next year especially at a cost of anything more than a back up.

From what I heard from beat reporters in camp, Howell resembled a younger Henike. So a back up?

I’m looking in the draft for more QB help and watching giving Wentz another shot to impress

Howell's arm talent is way better than TH... But I agree we need to find a legit QB next yr.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I want to see how Wentz does with a full arsenal and his ability to sit and learn in the offense

Imo, I dont think we should bring back Heinke next year especially at a cost of anything more than a back up.

From what I heard from beat reporters in camp, Howell resembled a younger Henike. So a back up?

I’m looking in the draft for more QB help and watching giving Wentz another shot to impress

You definitely don't bring back Wentz and Heinicke. Maybe one or the other.

I'm hoping they go:

Howell/2023 Mid-Round Pick/Cheap Vet at the QB position next year.

Neither Wentz or Heinicke have proved they deserve the money it will take to keep them next year.

[skinsfaninok]

Vegas has us behind GB for playoff chances.. basically they don’t believe we beat Cleveland


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[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Vegas has us behind GB for playoff chances.. basically they don’t believe we beat Cleveland


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I think that they think that GB will win 2 games and we wont

[Meks]

the line is -1.5 at home.

Its not a washington line at all. Its a trap line and vegas' %'s of wins are higher than not.

Keep an eye on the line and how it shifts - if public money starts going on cleveland? I will feel better about our chances. The public sucks and i tend to stick to betting the opposite of them haha

[MTK]

Unless Wentz has a huge turnaround he's an easy choice to move on from.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Unless Wentz has a huge turnaround he's an easy choice to move on from.

Are you paying Heineken and if so how much?

But the Wentz contract, no way Im paying…it’s either reduced cap or outright cut depending on how he finishes

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Are you paying Heineken and if so how much?

But the Wentz contract, no way Im paying…it’s either reduced cap or outright cut depending on how he finishes

Backup money for TH, if he gets a better offer to go elsewhere I'd wish him the best

[EdmundDorf]

Yes but you are forgetting the RR factor, I think he will keep Wentz on a reduced cap hit as a starter next year if he wins the next two games.

[EdmundDorf]

I would want Howell to be backup next year, we don't have that much spare cap to spend on Heinicke as a backup

[Chief X_Phackter]

If Wentz gets the team to the playoffs and looks pretty good doing it, he will be back next year, and Howell will start the season as the backup.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

If Wentz gets the team to the playoffs and looks pretty good doing it, he will be back next year, and Howell will start the season as the backup.

We should all be hoping for this scenario

[AnonEmouse]

I f Wentz shines the next 2+ games I'd bring him back but it would have to be on a renegotiated deal. He stank before the injury and didn't show enough in garbage time against SF to warrant anything long term.

TH will likely cost too much to keep as a backup, but he would be a good safety blanket if we can do a reasonable deal. Given what he's done he deserves to get his money, but I don't think it should be us forking out.

Ideally Howell pushes Wentz hard in camp and earns the backup role outright, if not actually deserving starter. Agree with picking up a guy in the draft, but only if BPA. IF Howell does show something we don't want to be wasting a pick on another QB that likely won't see the field, and then miss out on needs (OL, LB, DB).

If Wentz stinks and Howell doesn't look like the man then I think strategy has to be go high in the draft for a QB. I'd maybe sniff around Carr for a cheap deal, but definitely not offer the farm for him. He strikes me as a kind of TH but with an arm. As a 1-2 year placeholder until we the right guy in teh draft, I'd be OK with that.