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[Hog1]

Pentagon: 2 U.S. Navy Boats With 10 American Sailors Held by Iran Military - NBC News

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Pentagon: 2 U.S. Navy Boats With 10 American Sailors Held by Iran Military - NBC News

Trump Slams Obama for Not Freeing "Hostages" Five Hours After Obama Negotiated their Release by Iran | Occupy Democrats

[Chico23231]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistani...551.html?nhp=1

This is a religion

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistani...551.html?nhp=1

This is a religion

Your post is blasphemy! Cut off one of your hands!

[That Guy]

that's, uh... just wow.

[over the mountain]

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conten...n-Exhibits.pdf

^^ copies of some handouts/homework students had to do. i consider myself pretty accepting but .. this doesnt feel right.

the line stating "Most Muslim's faith is stronger than the average Christian" really crosses a line.

Public School System Sued for Pushing Islamic Propaganda

this is going on in La Plata in a "world history" class .... this sensitive "religious" material should have a strict set-in-stone curriculum with pre-approved handouts etc. it shouldnt be up to each teacher.

im really just amazed at this line.

"Most Muslim's faith is stronger than the average Christian".

in what way is that teaching about a religion?

[Chico23231]

According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.


.@KNX1070 reporting a neighbor did not call authorities about suspicious activity bc she did not want to racially profile #SanBernardino
— Will Carr (@WillCarrFNC) December 3, 2015

Neighbors: 3-4 "middle easterners" had recently moved into the apt of interest. getting a lots of package deliveries #SanBernardino
— Will Carr (@WillCarrFNC) December 3, 2015
This is the same politically correct culture that lead to the Ft. Hood shooting when Nidal Hassan, who had been spouting violent Islamic propaganda to neighbors on post and reaching out to Al Qaeda, was ignored for fear of "Islamaphobia" accusations.

The warning signs were all there: the justification of homicide bombings; the spewing of anti-American hatred; the efforts to reach Al Qaeda ...

But the U.S. military treated Major Nidal Malik Hasan with kid gloves, even after giving him a poor performance review. And though he was on the radar screen of at least one U.S. intelligence agency, no action was taken that might have prevented the Army psychiatrist from allegedly gunning down 13 people and wounding 29 others in the Fort Hood massacre last week.

See something, say something, is dead.


I found this out from the debate last night...these folks didn't want to get a visit from the PC Principal but they new something was wrong. Maybe could have stopped an attack.

I find it reprehensible that both the mother and the father of this dead terrorist didn't call police. They should be locked up.

[Hog1]

Profiling....racist bastards...lol
We have, what our leadership wanted us to have.......Nice and...................PC

[over the mountain]

Are U.S. Missiles Taking Out High-Ranking Russian Military Officials? - The Daily Beast

proxy war may very well be in full effect. what a wonderful world. i feel so bad for all the millions of families now displaced .. or dead .. or forever separated to never see each other again. i dont feel bad for the 20 and 30 something males who didnt stay and are now claiming amnesty in germany, etc. stay and fight for your country.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Are U.S. Missiles Taking Out High-Ranking Russian Military Officials? - The Daily Beast

proxy war may very well be in full effect. what a wonderful world. i feel so bad for all the millions of families now displaced .. or dead .. or forever separated to never see each other again. i dont feel bad for the 20 and 30 something males who didnt stay and are now claiming amnesty in germany, etc. stay and fight for your country.

on whose side? al assads? isis? extremists rebels? the moderate rebels don't really exist. not to mention it's hard to fight when you're starving and don't have a gun. it's also hard to go tell someone else they should go die for a country when that country no longer really exists, and everyone is killing everyone for no real reason at all.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Are U.S. Missiles Taking Out High-Ranking Russian Military Officials? - The Daily Beast

proxy war may very well be in full effect. what a wonderful world. i feel so bad for all the millions of families now displaced .. or dead .. or forever separated to never see each other again. i dont feel bad for the 20 and 30 something males who didnt stay and are now claiming amnesty in germany, etc. stay and fight for your country.

Emotional scenes unfolded at the Baghdad International Airport on Thursday as dozens of Iraqis who had sought refuge in Europe returned home.

More than a hundred Iraqis, mostly young men, landed in Baghdad on a flight from Finland.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dozens-ir...141557049.html
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fucking pussies.

[CRedskinsRule]

If Turkey enters into war is NATO still bound by Article 5, the unified defense clause? Could the US even consider not backing up Turkey and Saudi Arabia if they decided to break with the peace process the US set up with Russia?

Next Big Future: Turkey and Saudi Arabia could send tens of thousands of troops into Syria and a possible prelude to full blown Russia-Middle East war

Since the end of WWII there has always been a way to keep from going through with a full scale world war, but sure seems like Syria/ME could set up to test those limits.

[Chico23231]

Anybody care that ISIS is using Chlorine and Mustard Gas against multiple cities within Iraq?

Our president let this happen. Let genocide happen. Remember that folks, remember it.

He was up in arms when Assad did it...haven't heard a word from that pussy in the white house about these attacks.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Anybody care that ISIS is using Chlorine and Mustard Gas against multiple cities within Iraq?

Our president let this happen. Let genocide happen. Remember that folks, remember it.

He was up in arms when Assad did it...haven't heard a word from that pussy in the white house about these attacks.

from 2013 ..

Obama urges military action against Syria but will seek Congress' OK - CNN.com

Obama sent a letter to the heads of the House and Senate on Saturday night, hours after announcing that he believes military action against Syrian targets is the right step to take over the alleged use of chemical weapons.
The proposed legislation from Obama asks Congress to approve the use of military force "to deter, disrupt, prevent and degrade the potential for future uses of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction."
...
In a televised address from the White House Rose Garden earlier Saturday, the president said he would take his case to Congress, not because he has to -- but because he wants to.
"While I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective," he said. "We should have this debate, because the issues are too big for business as usual."
...
Some members of Congress applauded Obama's decision.
House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy and Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers issued a statement Saturday praising the president.
"Under the Constitution, the responsibility to declare war lies with Congress," the Republican lawmakers said. "We are glad the president is seeking authorization for any military action in Syria in response to serious, substantive questions being raised."
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Since 2013, congress has failed to vote on Pres Obama's AUMF. Seems both parties in congress are to blame.

I read a great article from foxnews this weekend that laid it out pretty clearly (cant find it now) ... republicans dont want to give obama unlimited war powers and democrats want specific limitations on # of troops, concrete twillight language, etc. (as well as ending the 2001 aumf that obama is currently using to bomb isis in syria).

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my short version -- its not Pres Obama fault that our engagement has been limited to air strikes. Its congresses. either way, im glad we are not "boots on the ground". that whole area is a shit show.

ive had trouble harmonizing my thoughts that i value american lives over those non-americans in syria and beyond.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

from 2013 ..

Obama urges military action against Syria but will seek Congress' OK - CNN.com

Obama sent a letter to the heads of the House and Senate on Saturday night, hours after announcing that he believes military action against Syrian targets is the right step to take over the alleged use of chemical weapons.
The proposed legislation from Obama asks Congress to approve the use of military force "to deter, disrupt, prevent and degrade the potential for future uses of chemical weapons or other weapons of mass destruction."
...
In a televised address from the White House Rose Garden earlier Saturday, the president said he would take his case to Congress, not because he has to -- but because he wants to.
"While I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective," he said. "We should have this debate, because the issues are too big for business as usual."
...
Some members of Congress applauded Obama's decision.
House Speaker John Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy and Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers issued a statement Saturday praising the president.
"Under the Constitution, the responsibility to declare war lies with Congress," the Republican lawmakers said. "We are glad the president is seeking authorization for any military action in Syria in response to serious, substantive questions being raised."
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Since 2013, congress has failed to vote on Pres Obama's AUMF. Seems both parties in congress are to blame.

I read a great article from foxnews this weekend that laid it out pretty clearly (cant find it now) ... republicans dont want to give obama unlimited war powers and democrats want specific limitations on # of troops, concrete twillight language, etc. (as well as ending the 2001 aumf that obama is currently using to bomb isis in syria).

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my short version -- its not Pres Obama fault that our engagement has been limited to air strikes. Its congresses. either way, im glad we are not "boots on the ground". that whole area is a shit show.

ive had trouble harmonizing my thoughts that i value american lives over those non-americans in syria and beyond.

Yet he starts out by saying he believes he has the authority to take the military action without Congressional approval. You blaming congress for refusing to answer when Obama himself acknowledges he didn't have to ask is the ultimate example of passing off responsibility.

Hold your president accountable.