Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[dmek25]

food for thought, just saw cousins stats for the last 16 games he has played
the skins are 10-6
he has thrown for over 4000 yards
has 35 TDs
and 6 picks
while im not completely sold on him, there arent a lot of QBs that stat line looks like that

[SFREDSKIN]

Projecting the 2017 NFL quarterback market

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by dmek25

food for thought, just saw cousins stats for the last 16 games he has played

the skins are 10-6

he has thrown for over 4000 yards

has 35 TDs

and 6 picks

while im not completely sold on him, there arent a lot of QBs that stat line looks like that

Very few actually. Yet a number of people are ready to let him walk so we can sign a Brian Hoyer type. Wtf?

[skinsfaninok]

Holy shit! 35 and 6?? Wow that's BIG time numbers bro. The only QB that I'd want is lynch or simien in a trade if we don't keep Kirk but I hope we do.

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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Projecting the 2017 NFL quarterback market

Good post. Thanks for sharing the article. I think the percentage for Cousins leaving is too low, IMO. I would say right now its probably at least 65% or 75%, realistically. I just dont see a scenario where Cousins stays here, unless we win more than 8 games, which may or may not happen...

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Very few actually. Yet a number of people are ready to let him walk so we can sign a Brian Hoyer type. Wtf?

I dont think those numbers are correct,I come up with 8 ints lol,I didnt count the tds but yes those are still very good numbers.
You guys want to twist what I said{Brian Hoyer} I'm strictly talking about this year and how inconsistent he's been and if he keeps it up.
And it's not like I'm crazy,after posting what I said I've seen at least 3 national articles basically saying the same things I said,and that's not including the one just posted about qbs in 2017 that said this:

Kirk Cousins, Washington

I'm not sure we're any clearer on Cousins' future than we were before this season started. He has been up and down in 2016, with five interceptions in five starts despite throwing just 22.4 percent of his passes 10 or more yards downfield, the lowest percentage of any regular starter in football. In one game alone, a cursory tape analysis saw Cousins leave three long touchdown passes on the field with bad throws. And yet Cousins has also had stretches in which he has played at a relatively high level. His QBR of 59.6 is a step below last year's 74.5 mark, but it's still good enough for 18th in the league.

Last year, the move that made sense for all parties was for Washington to franchise Cousins, which it did. This offseason, GM Scot McCloughan will have to make a tougher call. Franchising Cousins would cost Washington $24 million on a one-year deal, which would give him the third-highest cap hit in football behind Romo and Joe Flacco. It's not off the table entirely, but that would be an inefficient use of resources. More likely, McCloughan will want to go ahead with Cousins as his quarterback on a multiyear deal or find a new passer.

To be honest, I'm not sure what the right call will be or how things will go. This time last year, Cousins still looked like a turnover machine. He threw eight interceptions in his first six starts, and then, going against everything he had exhibited throughout his career, Cousins threw just three over the following 10 games. Stay tuned.

Likelihood of Cousins leaving: 35 percent

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I dont think those numbers are correct,I come up with 8 ints lol,I didnt count the tds but yes those are still very good numbers.

You guys want to twist what I said{Brian Hoyer} I'm strictly talking about this year and how inconsistent he's been and if he keeps it up.

And it's not like I'm crazy,after posting what I said I've seen at least 3 national articles basically saying the same things I said,and that's not including the one just posted about qbs in 2017 that said this:



Kirk Cousins, Washington



I'm not sure we're any clearer on Cousins' future than we were before this season started. He has been up and down in 2016, with five interceptions in five starts despite throwing just 22.4 percent of his passes 10 or more yards downfield, the lowest percentage of any regular starter in football. In one game alone, a cursory tape analysis saw Cousins leave three long touchdown passes on the field with bad throws. And yet Cousins has also had stretches in which he has played at a relatively high level. His QBR of 59.6 is a step below last year's 74.5 mark, but it's still good enough for 18th in the league.



Last year, the move that made sense for all parties was for Washington to franchise Cousins, which it did. This offseason, GM Scot McCloughan will have to make a tougher call. Franchising Cousins would cost Washington $24 million on a one-year deal, which would give him the third-highest cap hit in football behind Romo and Joe Flacco. It's not off the table entirely, but that would be an inefficient use of resources. More likely, McCloughan will want to go ahead with Cousins as his quarterback on a multiyear deal or find a new passer.



To be honest, I'm not sure what the right call will be or how things will go. This time last year, Cousins still looked like a turnover machine. He threw eight interceptions in his first six starts, and then, going against everything he had exhibited throughout his career, Cousins threw just three over the following 10 games. Stay tuned.



Likelihood of Cousins leaving: 35 percent

I wasn't really trying to key on your Hoyer comments specifically, though obviously I thought about it. Lol. A lot of folks are talking about letting KC walk so we can spend the money elsewhere and get a slightly below average or average qb. Etc etc.
Hoyer just seemed like a good example of exactly the type of QB that I don't want to see them replace Cousins with.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I wasn't really trying to key on your Hoyer comments specifically, though obviously I thought about it. Lol. A lot of folks are talking about letting KC walk so we can spend the money elsewhere and get a slightly below average or average qb. Etc etc.
Hoyer just seemed like a good example of exactly the type of QB that I don't want to see them replace Cousins with.

It comes down to McCloughan's comment at one point where he said something along the lines of feeling that its foolish to pay one player that much money which will end up hurting the team because they can't use the money to build the team.

Make no mistake I think he is playing for his next team in 2017. I hate to see him go because he seems like a such a good guy and a good team mate, but we are still the Redskins and we may "redskin" our quarterback situation..

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It comes down to McCloughan's comment at one point where he said something along the lines of feeling that its foolish to pay one player that much money which will end up hurting the team because they can't use the money to build the team.

Make no mistake I think he is playing for his next team in 2017. I hate to see him go because he seems like a such a good guy and a good team mate, but we are still the Redskins and we may "redskin" our quarterback situation..

Scot won't let Kirk walk if he has a Good year again and we finish solid. He's not an idiot, who else will be out there?? Romo? Lol I mean nobody to even look at and we won't have a top 5 pick

[MTK]

If SM was so against paying a guy that much I find it hard to reason why he gave him $20m for this year. It was nothing more than negotiating talk.

QB is one of the few spots you have to tie money up in if you have a good one. Speculating at this point is kind of pointless anyway. Still a long way to go.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Scot won't let Kirk walk if he has a Good year again and we finish solid. He's not an idiot, who else will be out there?? Romo? Lol I mean nobody to even look at and we won't have a top 5 pick

Kirk just needs to get a few Goodyears from his station, Kirk's Good years



lousy pun i know

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Good post. Thanks for sharing the article. I think the percentage for Cousins leaving is too low, IMO. I would say right now its probably at least 65% or 75%, realistically. I just dont see a scenario where Cousins stays here, unless we win more than 8 games, which may or may not happen...

And you would be way off. 35% is probably right where its at. You have nobody to replace him with. You won't draft a rookie and throw him in there game 1. You don't regress as a coaching staff. Gruden will not bring in a journeyman QB. Suffield is my anywhere near ready to play, McCoy would be regressing.

You play to win. You build your team to win every game. Kirk is the best chance we have at doing that. 13-9 as the starter since taking over.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It comes down to McCloughan's comment at one point where he said something along the lines of feeling that its foolish to pay one player that much money which will end up hurting the team because they can't use the money to build the team.

Make no mistake I think he is playing for his next team in 2017. I hate to see him go because he seems like a such a good guy and a good team mate, but we are still the Redskins and we may "redskin" our quarterback situation..

He said he wouldn't break the bank for one player. Which giving Kirk 18-20 million would not be breaking the bank. Especially if he plans to draft more defensive players and not pay Garcon/Djax.

19 million would be very close to 12% of the cap at the QB position. Which is about league average.

Also people need to remember the cap is going up every year. Pretty soon 19 million for a QB is going to be standard.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Good post. Thanks for sharing the article. I think the percentage for Cousins leaving is too low, IMO. I would say right now its probably at least 65% or 75%, realistically. I just dont see a scenario where Cousins stays here, unless we win more than 8 games, which may or may not happen...

I think it's less than 10% chance he leaves.

The only scenario where i see him leaving is if we go 8 - 8 and he wants 25+ million and year.

[Bucket]

Reed locked up
Kerrigan locked up
Norman locked up
Trent locked up

North big contracts issues coming up next year outside Kirks. We have 20 million in cap space, and after Djax/Garcon contracts are gone we will have even more.

To think we can't pay Kirk an average of 18 or 19 million a year and build a defense with the extra 25 million left over is ludicrous.

Oh, and I already mentioned. The cap is going up.