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View Poll Results: How would you address the QB1 situation for 2023?
Swing big in a trade for a veteran 2 3.77%
Trade up in the draft for a top prospect 4 7.55%
See who hits free agency 7 13.21%
Sit tight with Howell 35 66.04%
Other 5 9.43%
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:55 PM   #1
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Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

You take the option on CY. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. Otherwise, you have to spend picks and/or money to replace him, it's not 17.5m vs 0mill, it's 17.5 vs non-zero replacement cost, and having him there makes it easier on the rest of the DL (in a combined total talent kind of way). Obviously, Allen is the guy that really matters.
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Old 02-08-2023, 11:16 PM   #2
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You take the option on CY. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. Otherwise, you have to spend picks and/or money to replace him, it's not 17.5m vs 0mill, it's 17.5 vs non-zero replacement cost, and having him there makes it easier on the rest of the DL (in a combined total talent kind of way). Obviously, Allen is the guy that really matters.
One thing I can definitely respect Ron for is that Allen and McLaurin both agreed to extend here. Our leaders on both sides of the ball.
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Old 02-09-2023, 11:03 AM   #3
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Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

#Chiefs Andy Reid: "People say [Bieniemy] doesn't call the plays...he does. He literally calls the plays in there..."

https://twitter.com/aaronladd0/statu...Ci0nJJ-AYI_MLw

"We have an operation in how we do things and we have a communications system," Bieniemy said, via Herbie Teope of The Kansas City Star. "I mean, coaches communicate with me, I'm communicating to the quarterback. To be honest with you, I think people are making something out of nothing."

"I've always been that way with it (play-calling)," Reid said. "I think it's important that everybody's on the same page and involved with it. So, I don't really care who's calling it or not calling it. I just want to make sure that it gets called and that we've got good plays to call from. That's where I put my energy."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...more-classics/

Idk .. my guess would be Andy does most of the play calling, EB literally calls it into Mahomes but EB is like the sous chef who calls some plays if he feels good on one but probably "confers" w Andy with Andy making final decisions on most.

I think down and distance dictate what part of the playbook you can choose from anyway. So on a 3rd and 10, there might only be 8 plays to choose from, etc

Feel bad for EB that he is getting lame ducked like this
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Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

Perception is reality. He probably calls some plays, but does he formulate the game plan? Is he the one that chooses what 8 plays they may call if it's 3rd and 10, etc. I find it hard to believe that's not 'mostly' Andy.

Either way, he needs to go somewhere else. If he doesn't get the Indy HC job, he should take the OC job in Baltimore or Washington. Baltimore might look more appealing, depending on what happens with Lamar, but I don't see the opportunity in Washington as bad. It could be the exact situation he needs to propel him to the HC position that everyone seems to think he deserves.
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Old 02-09-2023, 11:28 AM   #5
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Perception is reality. He probably calls some plays, but does he formulate the game plan? Is he the one that chooses what 8 plays they may call if it's 3rd and 10, etc. I find it hard to believe that's not 'mostly' Andy.

Either way, he needs to go somewhere else. If he doesn't get the Indy HC job, he should take the OC job in Baltimore or Washington. Baltimore might look more appealing, depending on what happens with Lamar, but I don't see the opportunity in Washington as bad. It could be the exact situation he needs to propel him to the HC position that everyone seems to think he deserves.
Its not such a crazy scenario that if he had a good first year in WSH as OC and RR is let go next season that he wouldn't be first in line for the HC job.

Though honestly if he does a good job at OC we probably got winning football here and RR stays.
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Old 02-09-2023, 11:40 AM   #6
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Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

Yeah, I don't see RR going anywhere if someone comes in here and gets this offense going. We may be looking for a new OC again, but that would definitely buy more time for RR - at least to finish out the 5th year of his contract.
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Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

If you really listen to Ron's interview yesterday you can see he isn't 100% sold on SH and none of us are.. He said "He could be our guy" He said that last yr before trading for Wentz...

I don't buy anything he says
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Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

Rons interview on John Keims newest podcast is a must listen. Ron gives even more detail on Sam Howell and good info on the coordinator search.
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He's a 5th round QB who has played in a handful of preseason games and started one NFL game. While he looked fine, there's absolutely no reason for Ron to be 100% sold on Howell. Ron saying Howell "could" be the guy is about as factual as you can get.
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He's a 5th round QB who has played in a handful of preseason games and started one NFL game. While he looked fine, there's absolutely no reason for Ron to be 100% sold on Howell. Ron saying Howell "could" be the guy is about as factual as you can get.
Which is why I think a veteran will be brought in I just hope its not Carr, he will cost too much
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If you ask me, I think overwhelmingly it's because they realize he needs to go somewhere else to move his career forward. Yeah, they could bring him back and he can work under Andy inevitably, but it doesn't appear as though that is getting him anywhere.
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I don't know if I'm making a good comparison. But I think about Josh McDaniels, being under Bellichick shadows, in a team with a great QB (when Brady was in NE), and how he never got the scrutiny that EB seems to get. Hell, McDaniels had a terrible stint as a coach his first time around, and that didn't stop the Raiders from hiring him.
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I don't know if I'm making a good comparison. But I think about Josh McDaniels, being under Bellichick shadows, in a team with a great QB (when Brady was in NE), and how he never got the scrutiny that EB seems to get. Hell, McDaniels had a terrible stint as a coach his first time around, and that didn't stop the Raiders from hiring him.
I think the difference between the two situations is BB wasn't calling the offensive plays, McDaniels was. In KC it appears that AR is calling the plays, and while EB is obviously involved, his specific role isn't all that clear. He's definitely not autonomous, so how much credit does he deserve for the success of that offense?
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Ron has to be well aware that with new ownership coming in - if he doesn't build a contender this year it will be his last year here. The seat is very hot.
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