Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

No one sober would offer anything close to that.

Hey now. You dont have to be sober to be a good GM.

[Hog1]

........bad
funny, but.....bad

[punch it in]

I didnt mention any names. Lol

[NC_Skins]

This is a great breakdown between Kirk and Robert. Both have the same play ran with basically the same defense. See how one reacts and the other does.

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[kingj]

All Griffin criticism aside, my biggest fear is chip Kelly picks him up. IMO, Kelly could get 2012 RGIII back in that system.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is a great breakdown between Kirk and Robert. Both have the same play ran with basically the same defense. See how one reacts and the other does.

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The part of this that rings truest to me is that even the passes RG3 thrived on in 2012 he struggles with now. It just seems like something intangible got lost somewhere after his injury and now.

I just can't picture a scenario where he gets it back.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by kingj

All Griffin criticism aside, my biggest fear is chip Kelly picks him up. IMO, Kelly could get 2012 RGIII back in that system.

Kelly would end up getting Griffin killed.

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[kingj]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Kelly would end up getting Griffin killed.

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Very possible but at this stage that's griffin's only chance in this league. He needs to embrace the R/O because whether he gets killed or not he's not surviving the league as a pocket passer. Just don't see it, personally.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is a great breakdown between Kirk and Robert. Both have the same play ran with basically the same defense. See how one reacts and the other does.

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That's a bad angle but what you don't see is Ryan Grant ran his route 2 yards short with RG3 at QB. Doesn't seem like a big deal but he would of been easily open and seen on the second level if he would of ran it right.

Not making excuses for RG3 though. He's thrown that 9 route million times on the money in his career. He could of still made a throw there. He went through the reads and hit his 3rd option though so there is that.

[Bucket]

I also don't think RG3 is regressing as much as people say. It was a handful of plays against the Lions in a handful of 3rd and longs. He's shown progression working on his pocket work in TC ( I was there) and in the first game.

People need to realize he's basically a 25yr old rookie when it comes to pocket work. I wish we would run a similar system that Wisenhunt runs to help him a bit more but Jay seems to have a plan for RG3 and that is getting him as much work from the pocket as possible while the games don't count.

Don't be surprised to see a lot DIFFERENT offense in week 1. Not to many boots though since I am aware that Miami runs the wide 9.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bucket

That's a bad angle but what you don't see is Ryan Grant ran his route 2 yards short with RG3 at QB. Doesn't seem like a big deal but he would of been easily open and seen on the second level if he would of ran it right.

Not making excuses for RG3 though. He's thrown that 9 route million times on the money in his career. He could of still made a throw there. He went through the reads and hit his 3rd option though so there is that.

This is a play that every NFL team runs. Also that's just a short post. In one frame you can see KC clearly about to throw the ball just before Roberts makes his break. Griffin needs Grant to break open before he throws the ball. Just cut it loose with some anticipation and trust your wr.

This play really has nothing to do with 1st or 2nd team stuff. It's NFL QB 101. He ran this play or route a lot as a rookie but wasn't turning his back on the play action. He was making the fake off the pistol.

[Evilgrin]

The radio is hilarious, I'm going with Doc, he says it will sort itself out quick when the games are real.

[calia]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I also don't think RG3 is regressing as much as people say. It was a handful of plays against the Lions in a handful of 3rd and longs. He's shown progression working on his pocket work in TC ( I was there) and in the first game.



People need to realize he's basically a 25yr old rookie when it comes to pocket work. I wish we would run a similar system that Wisenhunt runs to help him a bit more but Jay seems to have a plan for RG3 and that is getting him as much work from the pocket as possible while the games don't count.



Don't be surprised to see a lot DIFFERENT offense in week 1. Not to many boots though since I am aware that Miami runs the wide 9.

Thanks for posting - nice to hear something positive in this thread.


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[kct1975]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is a great breakdown between Kirk and Robert. Both have the same play ran with basically the same defense. See how one reacts and the other does.

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Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I also don't think RG3 is regressing as much as people say. It was a handful of plays against the Lions in a handful of 3rd and longs. He's shown progression working on his pocket work in TC ( I was there) and in the first game.

People need to realize he's basically a 25yr old rookie when it comes to pocket work. I wish we would run a similar system that Wisenhunt runs to help him a bit more but Jay seems to have a plan for RG3 and that is getting him as much work from the pocket as possible while the games don't count.

Don't be surprised to see a lot DIFFERENT offense in week 1. Not to many boots though since I am aware that Miami runs the wide 9.

If you can't see a 6'5" 300 pound opponent coming straight for you in time to side step to make him miss (Like old slow Peyton Manning or Tom Brady)
or minimize the hit you never will.

Actually "pocket presence" and what I would call "football instincts" are mostly in your DNA you either have them or don't, you don't improve them
much with practice. Think of someone who you would consider a lifetime bad driver, someone who hits pot holes, road junk and critters with regularity, even though they have been driving for decades. Under the same road conditions you spot a ground hog running across the road 1/4 mile ahead.

Hate to use myself as an example in the late 70's early 80's I struggled to start at linebacker at a D3 college. I had measurables that a lot of high NFL picks don't have today. I had a 3.88 GPA in High School and 3.75 GPA in college. Yet my football I.Q. was too low to even register and I played all the way back to 5th grade flag football. I paid attention at practice and teammates tried to tutor me after practice. No one bit on fakes or tackled the guy without the ball more than me. I was missing something I could not acquire.

I am afraid RG3 is missing some natural instincts needed to succeed as an NFL
QB. He is like the bad driver that is always running over or into things.