BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

[SmootSmack]

So Shanahan (Mike and/or Kyle) is close to happening allegedly. One thing I wonder is this. Mike Shanahan wouldn't come here now as head coach because Zorn is still here and they wouldn't (I don't think) fire him with just three weeks to go. But...they could hire him now just as President. And then Head Coach later?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So Shanahan (Mike and/or Kyle) is close to happening allegedly. One thing I wonder is this. Mike Shanahan wouldn't come here now as head coach because Zorn is still here and they wouldn't (I don't think) fire him with just three weeks to go. But...they could hire him now just as President. And then Head Coach later?

Kyle who????????????? NO THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! This isn't the job for a 1st timer. Let him learn somewhere else.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Kyle who????????????? NO THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! This isn't the job for a 1st timer. Let him learn somewhere else.

Well he at least is a proven offensive coordinator, not something you could say about Zorn when he was hired.

Either way, it's more likely that he will follow his dad wherever he goes. Whether it's here or Dallas. Kyle Shanahan was an assistant coach under Allen, so that's something to keep in mind.

I'm still a little shocked over all this news though. I mean I knew we were going to name someone General Manager soon, and I knew Allen was a finalist. But I was certain it would end up being someone else and I didn't think it would happen so quickly. Crazy day

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well he at least is a proven offensive coordinator, not something you could say about Zorn when he was hired.

Either way, it's more likely that he will follow his dad wherever he goes. Whether it's here or Dallas. Kyle Shanahan was an assistant coach under Allen, so that's something to keep in mind.

I'm still a little shocked over all this news though. I mean I knew we were going to name someone General Manager soon, and I knew Allen was a finalist. But I was certain it would end up being someone else and I didn't think it would happen so quickly. Crazy day

Does JLC's Gruden story have any truth to it, or is JLC making things up again?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So Shanahan (Mike and/or Kyle) is close to happening allegedly. One thing I wonder is this. Mike Shanahan wouldn't come here now as head coach because Zorn is still here and they wouldn't (I don't think) fire him with just three weeks to go. But...they could hire him now just as President. And then Head Coach later?

Could they both sign and Allen just keep it a secret for three weeks

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So Shanahan (Mike and/or Kyle) is close to happening allegedly. One thing I wonder is this. Mike Shanahan wouldn't come here now as head coach because Zorn is still here and they wouldn't (I don't think) fire him with just three weeks to go. But...they could hire him now just as President. And then Head Coach later?

I don't know, I thought someone said or it was mentioned on ESPN980 that after the Allen announcement that there would be another major announcement with in the week. It could not be talked about now cause of privacy contractual issues.

Could it be that Gruden will be named after the Mon. night game? So they don't have issues with Gruden's ESPN contract, announcing, and being the new HC?

Could it be Shanahan will be announced to have been picked up by the team in some capacity maybe president for now so no one gets to talk with him, then after the year named HC also? Zorn let go and Sherm Lewis finishing out the year as interim HC?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I don't know, I thought someone said or it was mentioned on ESPN980 that after the Allen announcement that there would be another major announcement with in the week. It could not be talked about now cause of privacy contractual issues.

Could it be that Gruden will be named after the Mon. night game? So they don't have issues with Gruden's ESPN contract, announcing, and being the new HC?

Could it be Shanahan will be announced to have been picked up by the team in some capacity maybe president for now so no one gets to talk with him, then after the year named HC also? Zorn let go and Sherm Lewis finishing out the year as interim HC?

I think that someone else would get interim HC; that'd bring Lewis down to the field, probably Meidt too. Plus media duties, etc

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So Shanahan (Mike and/or Kyle) is close to happening allegedly. One thing I wonder is this. Mike Shanahan wouldn't come here now as head coach because Zorn is still here and they wouldn't (I don't think) fire him with just three weeks to go. But...they could hire him now just as President. And then Head Coach later?

Yea, I guess MS said he wouldn't take over mid season. Doesn't mean they couldn't hire him for 2010 or talk to him about next year. I'm not sure they wouldn't just cut Zorn go and name an interim. No way you'd want it to be leaked that you have a new coach for next year when Zorn is still under contract.

I would guess Mike. No way they'd give it to Kyle, right?

[SBXVII]

Why is Allen better then VC?

Easily....Allen picks players from the draft that are actually needed on the team. Plus he has decent scouts checking them out. VC has had crappy scouts and only picked Best Player Available. BPA is not a bad idea if your team has no significant needs but when you have glaring needs you have to pick for that position.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Why is Allen better then VC?

Easily....Allen picks players from the draft that are actually needed on the team. Plus he has decent scouts checking them out. VC has had crappy scouts and only picked Best Player Available. BPA is not a bad idea if your team has no significant needs but when you have glaring needs you have to pick for that position.

It needs to be a combination of both. Drafting for need for the sake of drafting for need is just as bad as always drafting BPA. Based on Allens history though the first thing thats going to get fixed is the OL. Personally I wish I had some sort of alternate universe machine that would show me what Vinny would have done though I suspect it would have been something like RB, LB or QB, RB with our first two picks. We would have been lucky if Cerrato even considered an OL.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It needs to be a combination of both. Drafting for need for the sake of drafting for need is just as bad as always drafting BPA. Based on Allens history though the first thing thats going to get fixed is the OL. Personally I wish I had some sort of alternate universe machine that would show me what Vinny would have done though I suspect it would have been something like RB, LB or QB, RB with our first two picks. We would have been lucky if Cerrato even considered an OL.

No, the Vinny would have given up the 1st and 2nd rounder to move up in the draft 2 or 3 spots and picked up a QB. The 3rd was used on Jarmin who will be another great player like Orakpo. The 4th round would have been a Free Safety. The 5th round would have been a LB. I'm not sure if we have a 6th round or not anymore in regards to the Jason Taylor issue and the 7th round would have been a RB. Vinny would have invited 3 OL who were not drafted to show up in the summer and most likely cut them causing the team to look into FA.

[DBUCHANON101]

Ill wait and see... hope for the best.

[SmootSmack]

Mike-I suppose. Kyle-no.

By the way, if you guys here any talk about Cerrato being a "consultant" to the team. Don't get worked up over it. He has no role with the team. It's just that he's still under a contract for a few more months so that's his new title. Nothing to worry about

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mike-I suppose. Kyle-no.

By the way, if you guys here any talk about Cerrato being a "consultant" to the team. Don't get worked up over it. He has no role with the team. It's just that he's still under a contract for a few more months so that's his new title. Nothing to worry about

Thats what they told Zorn when Sherm came in

[DBUCHANON101]

IMO this season was all on the HC, if we had a coach that played to our player's strengths we would be much better as a team.