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Old 12-17-2009, 10:45 PM   #1
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Best assessment of Bruce!

It includes who he might hire as coach, Both good and bad Draft picks, FA signings and trades, players who should be worried about his arrival, and finally, a first stab at a potential Mock Draft.


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Old 12-17-2009, 11:00 PM   #2
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Best assessment of Bruce!

It includes who he might hire as coach, Both good and bad Draft picks, FA signings and trades, players who should be worried about his arrival, and finally, a first stab at a potential Mock Draft.


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awesome link, good points, thanks
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:20 PM   #3
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Best assessment of Bruce!

It includes who he might hire as coach, Both good and bad Draft picks, FA signings and trades, players who should be worried about his arrival, and finally, a first stab at a potential Mock Draft.


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Good link, good read. He called Larry Michael a "Snyderette!" LMAO.

A buddy of mine is a video editor over at Comcast, and he text me today that one of the guys over there had inside info that Shanahan is a "done deal." Whatever that's worth.

I'd probably rather have Gruden, but I won't be mad at a two time Super Bowl winner coming in to take over coaching (hopefully with his son) with a true GM shopping for the groceries.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:13 PM   #4
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Fyi Allen was NOT GM in Oakland. al Davis made all major decisions and Allen handled contracts and other technical issues.
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Fyi Allen was NOT GM in Oakland
your right he was a football executive and he won executive of the year in 2002, as well as other a few divisional championships. whats your point?
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:29 PM   #6
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your right he was a football executive and he won executive of the year in 2002, as well as other a few divisional championships. whats your point?
Because people keep talking about his alleged draft record
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Because people keep talking about his alleged draft record
cerrato hasn't been a gm all these years, and snyder has never taken the tittle of gm either but they have both had in a hand in almost all the draft picks of the last decade have they not? just beacuse he doen't have the title of "draft guy" does not mean he doesn't have any in put or has learned from his experiences on other teams.
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:44 PM   #8
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Because people keep talking about his alleged draft record
We'll never know with each pick how much was Allen and how much was Undead Al. We can still talk about picks made on his watch. They are part of his record even if Undead Al was a significant author of that record.
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We'll never know with each pick how much was Allen and how much was Undead Al. We can still talk about picks made on his watch. They are part of his record even if Undead Al was a significant author of that record.
We do know - big al made the decisions in Oakland. In Tampa, Gruden generally made the decisions. Allen is NOT a personnel guy which is why Snyder and Allen will either promote or bring in a personnel guy to make those decisions here. For all intents and purposes, Allen will end up being more of a president than a GM, atleast if JLCs reports are to be believed.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

bha would you have been happy with anyone?
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is he the number one guy for the job maybe not, i honestly don't think there is any perfect guy for the job at this point we have very unusual conditions here in dc and whoever could have been up for the job would no doubt have their hands full, i'm just glad to see some one with some football background and some success in their football background here, and am looking forward to see what happens
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A couple of people have mentioned it but whether you agree with the pick or not it's a step in the right direction. We laid the foundation and are framing the house before we're trying to put the roof on. Also, I'll repeat what I said earlier, who really thinks that we had a bunch of guys that we may have wanted that wanted us in return? I mean could you really see a Piolo, etc coming to the Skins?
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

What I know about Allen seems like a big improvement over Vinny. But here's the billion dollar question: is Allen a guy who will keep Snyder from meddling in the football decisions?
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

On a side note, this is already a legendary thread in Warpath history. Nearly 10,000 views in just 16 or so hours. That's over 10 views a minute. Great stuff.
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