And with the 6th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the redskins select...........

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

A few years back? Right now Flacco is a top 12-15 QB in the league no matter how much people wanna hate on him. JC is a NFL quarterback. Big difference.

I'll give u 15

[skinsfaninok]

And I don't hate on him I just don't think he's that good

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Elite Level QBs:
Brady, Manning, Manning, Rodgers, Brees,

Next Level QBs: (Very Good to Great)
Rivers, Cutler, Stafford, Romo, Vick, Flacco, Ryan, Schaub

Next Level QBs: (Above Average to Good)
Newton, Dalton, Palmer, Hasselbeck, Smith

Next Level QBs: (Average)
Orton, Cassel, JC, Fitzpatrick, Kolb, Sanchez, Bradford, Ponder, Moore, Freeman

Next Level QBs: (Bad to Below Average)
McCoy, Tebow, Gabbert

Next Level QBs: (Why are these guys out there?)
Grossman, Jackson

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Elite Level QBs:
Brady, Manning, Manning, Rodgers, Brees,

Next Level QBs: (Very Good to Great)
Rivers, Cutler, Stafford, Romo, Vick, Flacco, Ryan, Schaub

Next Level QBs: (Above Average to Good)
Newton, Dalton, Palmer, Hasselbeck, Smith

Next Level QBs: (Average)
Orton, Cassel, JC, Fitzpatrick, Kolb, Sanchez, Bradford, Ponder, Moore, Freeman

Next Level QBs: (Bad to Below Average)
McCoy, Tebow, Gabbert

Next Level QBs: (Why are these guys out there?)
Grossman, Jackson

Where does Roethlisberger stand on your list? I only ask because him and Manning have had similar careers, 2 SB wins each aided in part by great defense along with opportunistic offense.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by mooby

Where does Roethlisberger stand on your list? I only ask because him and Manning have had similar careers, 2 SB wins each aided in part by great defense along with opportunistic offense.

You have to deduct points for alleged sexual assault.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

You have to deduct points for alleged sexual assault.

You know, I think he did it, which makes him a POS as a person, but in this list on field performance should be the only measurement. Hence why Vick is in the good-to-great category. I still think Vick, whilst saying and doing all the right things in the public eye, probably isn't as sorry as people think he is.

[skinsfaninok]

Flacco is not good to great dude look at his overall numbers and honestly schaub isn't either bc he can't stay healthy. Id take cam over both of those guys anyday

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I'll stick with my list.

[skinsfaninok]

Flacco has a career 86 rating
Jc on shit teams has a career 83 rating not much of a difference

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

What's Tebow career rating?

[Ruhskins]

Flacco is not great but gets the job done. The Ravens have been to the playoffs every year he's been their starting QB. He plays in a tough conference, which features a perennial top ten defense (Steelers). He's not elite, but he's not terrible. I don't get people sh*tting on him all the time (including dumb a$$ Ravens fans).

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Flacco is not great but gets the job done. The Ravens have been to the playoffs every year he's been their starting QB. He plays in a tough conference, which features a perennial top ten defense (Steelers). He's not elite, but he's not terrible. I don't get people sh*tting on him all the time (including dumb a$$ Ravens fans).

Sans this years AFC Championship game Flacco doesn't get it done when the game is on the line. Basically Flacco can't put the Ravens on his back and will them a win and that is what makes a great QB IMO.

Raven's fans dislike him becasue he is stuck at average QB and they thought he was the next Johnny U. the Ravens have given him plenty of weapons and he still doesn't dazzle.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sans this years AFC Championship game Flacco doesn't get it done when the game is on the line. Basically Flacco can't put the Ravens on his back and will them a win and that is what makes a great QB IMO.

Raven's dislike him becasue he is stuck at average QB and they thought he was the next Johnny U. the Ravens have given him plenty of weapons and he still doesn't dazzle.

And that's why I call him an adequate QB. And he doesn't need to put the Ravens on his back, given that they've always had above average running game and elite defense.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And that's why I call him an adequate QB. And he doesn't need to put the Ravens on his back, given that they've always had above average running game and elite defense.

Exactly he ain't bad but ain't nothing special either.

Folks on here that think he is great what would you trade to get him?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Flacco is not great but gets the job done. The Ravens have been to the playoffs every year he's been their starting QB. He plays in a tough conference, which features a perennial top ten defense (Steelers). He's not elite, but he's not terrible. I don't get people sh*tting on him all the time (including dumb a$$ Ravens fans).

I think the reason people defecate on him is if he was the terrific QB some people make him out to be, with the talent he has surrounding him they should have been going deep into the playoffs every year. But with the exception of his rookie year in 2008 where they won their first two playoff games, the Ravens have been one and done in the playoffs each year since.

Any average quarterback can get a stacked team to the playoffs. Jason Campbell could do that. Buy my point is, how can Flacco be even marginally better than Campbell when their numbers are fairly similar and Flacco has played on stacked teams and Campbell has played on not great teams? In my mind, that makes Flacco look worse than better.