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Old 02-28-2014, 07:53 PM   #1
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Greg Hardy off the market...

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Old 02-28-2014, 08:36 PM   #2
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Orakpo will be 28 when his next contract starts, do you think he will be just as productive in his 30s ?

QBs are not getting the crap beaten out of them every play so it is easy to stay motivated.

The notion I am cherry picking Redskin mistakes is absurd, their record the last 10 years on and off the field speaks for itself.
I think olb's can be productive into their 30s, and I am confident a look at NFL rosters would bear that out. Also a well written contract can protect a team if the player doesn't work out.

I didn't mean cherry picking as much as going after low hanging fruit. Its easy to find skins bad moves, harder to find good moves. But you didn't say any non skins transactions that were comparable to Orakpos situation (I didn't say it had to be but that was the context of my question, sorry for my lack of clarity)

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Old 02-28-2014, 09:08 PM   #3
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Orakpo:
G 64
GS 64
Sk 39.5
Int 1 yds29 1td lng 29
PD16
FF 6
FR 3 yds 0 0TD
Tackles 157
Asst 75

Clay Matthews
G 69
GS 66
Sks 50.0
Ints 4 yds109 2TD Lng 62
PD 23
FF 10
FR 3 yds 46 1TD
Tackles 189
Assists 58

Clay Matthews Contract last year 66Mil, bonus of 21Mil, and counts 10.9mil, this year.

Is Orakpo exactly Clay Matthews, no, but he is a LOT closer to Clay Matthews then he is to Victor Butler (6th round selection of same draft class)

Bottomline, the Skins have a top FA player on our team, and we ought to make every effort to keep him. If he chooses to walk away, then that is his choice, but it shouldn't be because the Skins were penny wise, pound foolish.
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Old 03-01-2014, 12:36 AM   #4
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Orakpo:
G 64
GS 64
Sk 39.5
Int 1 yds29 1td lng 29
PD16
FF 6
FR 3 yds 0 0TD
Tackles 157
Asst 75

Clay Matthews
G 69
GS 66
Sks 50.0
Ints 4 yds109 2TD Lng 62
PD 23
FF 10
FR 3 yds 46 1TD
Tackles 189
Assists 58

Clay Matthews Contract last year 66Mil, bonus of 21Mil, and counts 10.9mil, this year.

Is Orakpo exactly Clay Matthews, no, but he is a LOT closer to Clay Matthews then he is to Victor Butler (6th round selection of same draft class)

Bottomline, the Skins have a top FA player on our team, and we ought to make every effort to keep him. If he chooses to walk away, then that is his choice, but it shouldn't be because the Skins were penny wise, pound foolish.
I agree. The Orakpo negotiations are a fairly easy litmus test to see if the organization is interested in getting it right this time around, and with the franchise tag, they hold a cheat card in their hand.

Basically, if they fail here, they have no one to blame but themselves.
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:06 PM   #5
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if we go defense in FA i want Spikes and Linval Joseph. Spikes brings some attitude to the D, something we have been lacking bad then also drafting a LB too. Depending on Raks situation I wouldnt mind looking at Michael Johnson either.

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Old 03-01-2014, 01:35 AM   #6
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Sign him long term. They have to protect him with the tag before we get a long term deal done.

I have been waiting to hear that the skins have signed/tagged him.
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:36 AM   #7
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I hope we resign Rak and Perry Riley but I would not over spend to keep both of them. I love Rak but he needs to be more of a game changer against teams in the NFC East. We need drafted him and watched him develop so lets keep him and not let him go play for someone else. I do believe Riley can be replaced if he wants to much. I also think for the right price resign Brandon Merriweather to a 2 yr deal.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:31 AM   #8
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I hope we resign Rak and Perry Riley but I would not over spend to keep both of them. I love Rak but he needs to be more of a game changer against teams in the NFC East. We need drafted him and watched him develop so lets keep him and not let him go play for someone else. I do believe Riley can be replaced if he wants to much. I also think for the right price resign Brandon Merriweather to a 2 yr deal.
Why? I wouldn't resign him to a 2 day deal.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:35 AM   #9
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The cap adjustment, some restructures, and the fact that Jordan Gross retired gave Carolina the opportunity to keep the Greg Hardy.

As for the Redskins, the question is if they let Brian Orakpo who is the next option? I think that they will target Jason Worilds and Michael Johnson. MJ got it done when he played the OLB in the 3-4.
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:46 AM   #10
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Here are some interesting comments by Charley Casserly on possible Redskins FA strategy:

Former Washington and Houston general manager Charley Casserly thinks that the Redskins are going to invest heavily on the offensive line when free agency starts, with “heavily” being used both literally and figuratively.

Appearing on the NFL Network on Friday morning, Casserly said that Robert Griffin III would benefit from improved protection as he tries to shake off his substandard 2013 season. He think that new head coach Jay Gruden would like to do something in free agency to help.

“If you think of Gruden in Cincinnati, they had a much bigger offensive line than what he’s inheriting in Washington,” said Casserly. “So they need to get bigger to be able to drop-back pass better.”

The numbers bear out Casserly’s statement. The lightest player on the Bengals starting line last year was center Kyle Cook at 312 pounds. It went up from there to tackle Andre Smith and guard Andrew Whitworth, both of whom are listed at 335. Trent Williams was the Redskins’ heaviest starter at 315 and the heft went down from there to guard Kory Lichtensteiger, who weighed in at 284.

If bigger is indeed better, the Redskins will have to hit the free agent market to bring in some fat boys.

“They don’t have a first-round pick so in free agency look for them to come roaring out of there in free agency for offensive line help,” said Casserly.

There seems to be little question that changes will be made along the line. Williams is the only starter who can be considered safe. We will see if Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen will made changes along the line gradually or if we are looking at three or even four new starters in 2014.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:05 AM   #11
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Maybe this is why LeRibeus got fat. Such a forward thinker that Josh
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Maybe this is why LeRibeus got fat. Such a forward thinker that Josh
If LeRibust comes in 40 lbs overweight this year I hope Jay Gruden cuts his fat ass before he even has time to step off the scale.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:45 AM   #13
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Maybe this is why LeRibeus got fat. Such a forward thinker that Josh
Will his laziness and don't give a f&ckness end up benefiting him with gruden? That would be a hell of a story if he ends up starting and being decent.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:55 AM   #14
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Will his laziness and don't give a f&ckness end up benefiting him with gruden? That would be a hell of a story if he ends up starting and being decent.
not gonna happen. problem is that there are plenty of fatasses in FA that can actually PLAY.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:59 AM   #15
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I hope they go after Mack, Schwartz, and Collins.
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