Campbell's numbers dont lie

[Trample the Elderly]

I just think it's funny that's all. Gallows humor is still humor.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yeah, those people are being proven to be looney too...like the Sanchez lovers.

Cutler's numbers are so minimally-better than Campbell's that it's obvious that even if he were on the Redskins this season, he's be no better or worse than Campbell.

With Vinny in charge of building our O-line and Zorn calling plays (up until now)...Campbell was our best-bet for this season.

I know, I cant believe I am agreeing with you lol. Well I usually disagree when it comes to the off topic realm.

But I continue to be surprised by the JC haters. They were soo happy JC was benched and started getting excited after ONE TC pass! ONE PASS lol. I cant believe that allowed them to overlook TC complete lack of mobility and arm strengh. Sure JC makes errors, but with our terrible pocket pro he is definitely the best option.

[MTK]

At this point I would rather give TC the starting nod. Give him a full week of taking all the snaps and let's see what he can do. It's obvious we're going nowhere fast with JC.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

At this point I would rather give TC the starting nod. Give him a full week of taking all the snaps and let's see what he can do. It's obvious we're going nowhere fast with JC.

But neither QB is the future right? Why play an old-QB who has zero mobility and arm strength? Dont you think blitzing teams like Eagles will be more success against TC, especially with my line?

I am just wondering, bc IMO I dont really see it any other way. Plus you are the only one who isnt a JC hater supporting TC.

[MTK]

I just think it's worth giving TC a real shot. Give him a full week of snaps and prep and let's see if he can get things going. The season is sinking fast. Time to try something, anything to get the offense going. It's simply not working with JC.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I just think it's worth giving TC a real shot. Give him a full week of snaps and prep and let's see if he can get things going. The season is sinking fast. Time to try something, anything to get the offense going. It's simply not working with JC.

I agree. Collins didnt look great but he hadnt taken a snap in a game in a long time and he hadnt prepared as a starter. Without that prep he played about the same as JC who has been the starter since JZ arrived. I dont see how playing him can hurt. He's not any kind of long term solution beyond this year but maybe with some prep he can provide some kind of spark.

[RiggoDrill]

I have never been a big fan of looking at stats to determine a player's worth. Stats tell only part of the story and at the end of ther day the only stats that matter in the NFL are W's and L's.
I personally think JC is an NFL caliber qb capable of playing winning football. But he is a qb, which means when the team wins he will get more credit than he deserves, and when they lose he will take more blame than he deserves. Right now the only stat that matters is 2-4. Its not all his fault though.

[Bozzy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I just think it's worth giving TC a real shot. Give him a full week of snaps and prep and let's see if he can get things going. The season is sinking fast. Time to try something, anything to get the offense going. It's simply not working with JC.

It really doesn't matter. No QB has a chance with our piss poor O-line. No way to sugarcoat it. The O-Line is garbage. Not one quality player. Campbell or Collins, they don't have time to do anything.

How would Brett Favre be doing behind our line?

It all starts up front.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

It really doesn't matter. No QB has a chance with our piss poor O-line. No way to sugarcoat it. The O-Line is garbage. Not one quality player. Campbell or Collins, they don't have time to do anything.

How would Brett Favre be doing behind our line?

It all starts up front.

Which is MORE of a reason to use the QB who is a very mobile, excellent runner...who also has the stronger arm of the two.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I just think it's worth giving TC a real shot. Give him a full week of snaps and prep and let's see if he can get things going. The season is sinking fast. Time to try something, anything to get the offense going. It's simply not working with JC.

I'd like to see JC play a couple of games with someone other than Zorn calling the plays. That will give us a pretty clear indication of the impact that Zorn's play calling had on Campbell. I don't really see the point in playing Collins. We know exactly who he is. He's an old, career backup. If Brennan were healthy, I'd be more inclined to give him some time (I can't believe I just typed that) but there's zero point in starting Collins now or anytime this season.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'd like to see JC play a couple of games with someone other than Zorn calling the plays. That will give us a pretty clear indication of the impact that Zorn's play calling had on Campbell. I don't really see the point in playing Collins. We know exactly who he is. He's an old, career backup. If Brennan were healthy, I'd be more inclined to give him some time (I can't believe I just typed that) but there's zero point in starting Collins now or anytime this season.

I wonder if Lewis will make the call of who starts.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I wonder if Lewis will make the call of who starts.

No Zorn just said in his press conf. that he will make that decision.

[dgack]

I just ran some numbers on the team's average passer rating over the past two decades, and I think some of you may be surprised how it shakes out.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...-qbs-name.html

Yes, I know many will say that stats don't tell the whole story, and they aren't intended to. That said, there is no reason we shouldn't be a 9-7 ball club or better with Jason Campbell and the numbers he is putting up.

[irish]

Originally Posted by dgack

I just ran some numbers on the team's average passer rating over the past two decades, and I think some of you may be surprised how it shakes out.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...-qbs-name.html

Yes, I know many will say that stats don't tell the whole story, and they aren't intended to. That said, there is no reason we shouldn't be a 9-7 ball club or better with Jason Campbell and the numbers he is putting up.

But what numbers is he putting up? His rating is good but he completes passes for very little yardage which means he throws a bunch of dink passes that skews his rating for the better.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

But what numbers is he putting up? His rating is good but he completes passes for very little yardage which means he throws a bunch of dink passes that skews his rating for the better.

As I pointed out last week, he's got a higher YPA than Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Warner & Palmer. Seriously, it's sad how misinformed his detractors are.