Brunell Reworks Deal (FKA "Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal")

Pocono · 03-01-2006, 08:32 AM

That article is deceptive where it says they want him to convert salary into bonus and reduce his cap number. In order for that to happen he has to take less not only this year but every year of the contract because of the 30% rule. If it were a simple restructure he'd do it in a heartbeat. They can't even do what they did last year and make salary into incentives because in the last capped year all incentives count against the cap as if they were likely to be earned so his cap hit wouldn't change.

irish · 03-01-2006, 08:38 AM

Remember all the posts on the LA threat about should he receive special treatment from the skins? A line used in most all those posts was no he should not because business is business. Well for MB, business is business. He owes the skins nothing but a days work for a days pay.

Whether its a good idea (career wise) for him to restructure is something he has to decide for himself but the notion that he needs to do this to help the skins out is off base. Business is business and for MB, nearing the end of his career, he's in the business of getting as much $ as he can in the best playing situation he can find.

That Guy · 03-01-2006, 09:09 AM

overpaid wynn and lavar (and samuels, we had a chance to get him much cheaper before the walter jones deal) too

Hog1 · 03-01-2006, 09:13 AM

It's much easier to make rational, logical decisions when the future is known. Unfortunately, the future is...........not...............

Gmanc711 · 03-01-2006, 09:48 AM

Heres why I dont understand this.... why wouldn't you renegoiate the deal? Everything as far as base salaries can be gaurnteed after this season, so why wouldnt you renegotiate it and get all that gaurnteed money? Especially when a guy like Brunell will probaboly get cut within the next couple years anyways?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-01-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Heres why I dont understand this.... why wouldn't you renegoiate the deal? Everything as far as base salaries can be gaurnteed after this season, so why wouldnt you renegotiate it and get all that gaurnteed money? Especially when a guy like Brunell will probaboly get cut within the next couple years anyways?

As I, and That Guy, have stated, it's because restructuring your deal makes you a good candidate to get cut in the future. By converting a base salary into a bonus, you aren't cutting the guy's pay, you are simply deferring some of the cap space to subsequent seasons. By deferring some of the cap space to subsequent seasons, you make yourself more costly in the future. Making yourself more costly in the future is a bad idea when you are nearing the end of your career.

It only makes sense to restructure when a team has more to gain from cutting you now than keeping you. That is not the case with Brunell, who is more expensive to cut than keep.

That Guy · 03-01-2006, 10:09 AM

lavar being willing and actually getting it done are two different things. I need to see it, words don't mean much. I personally don't hold what people make against them, btu at the same time if they're not playing up to their contract i have no qualms about seeing them go.

jdlea · 03-01-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

lavar being willing and actually getting it done are two different things. I need to see it, words don't mean much.

I would agree with that, but at the same time, LaVar will have to be willing to give up a lot of money to get his deal restructured. However, if he changes the roster bonus to a signing bonus then it's guaranteed so he'll see it even if he does get cut, so I don't see the point in not restructuring. However, I pretty much think that everyone need to restructure right now cause I want this team to stay together. I know cuts need to be made, I just hope they don't include too many starters. I know that's not realistic, but it's really gonna suck to see a lot of these guys go.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2006, 10:58 AM

It's a mat, where you can jump...to...conclusions on!

MTK · 03-01-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

It's a mat, where you can jump...to...conclusions on!

I think this guy already has the patent

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think this guy already has the patent

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What's even funnier is that you actually found a picture of him from something other than Office Space!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2006, 11:02 AM

And make sure you use this next time.

MTK · 03-01-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

And make sure you use this next time.

LOL

I didn't get that memo

#56fanatic · 03-01-2006, 12:10 PM

hey loyalty in the NFL is rare. Especially for a guy that is 36 years old, probably playing for his last team in his career, he isn't going to have the chance at making $4million a year. Plus if he is cut, the team eats 5+million, so why rework your deal? For the betterment of the team, if these guys were worried about the team, wouldn't you think they would play for the minimum every year, and just play for the signing bonuses. He reworked his deal last year because of the season he had, awful. he comes back plays like a probowler, his agent isn't going to let him rework the deal.

irish · 03-01-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

hey loyalty in the NFL is rare. Especially for a guy that is 36 years old, probably playing for his last team in his career, he isn't going to have the chance at making $4million a year. Plus if he is cut, the team eats 5+million, so why rework your deal? For the betterment of the team, if these guys were worried about the team, wouldn't you think they would play for the minimum every year, and just play for the signing bonuses. He reworked his deal last year because of the season he had, awful. he comes back plays like a probowler, his agent isn't going to let him rework the deal.

You are right loyality in the NFL is rare. The second a player is useless to the team he is gone no matter how great he was or how much he helped the team to win. Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice are the poster boys for the lack of loyality in the NFL.

03-01-2006, 08:32 AM	#1
Pocono Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 30	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal That article is deceptive where it says they want him to convert salary into bonus and reduce his cap number. In order for that to happen he has to take less not only this year but every year of the contract because of the 30% rule. If it were a simple restructure he'd do it in a heartbeat. They can't even do what they did last year and make salary into incentives because in the last capped year all incentives count against the cap as if they were likely to be earned so his cap hit wouldn't change.

03-01-2006, 08:38 AM	#2
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal Remember all the posts on the LA threat about should he receive special treatment from the skins? A line used in most all those posts was no he should not because business is business. Well for MB, business is business. He owes the skins nothing but a days work for a days pay. Whether its a good idea (career wise) for him to restructure is something he has to decide for himself but the notion that he needs to do this to help the skins out is off base. Business is business and for MB, nearing the end of his career, he's in the business of getting as much $ as he can in the best playing situation he can find.

03-01-2006, 09:09 AM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal overpaid wynn and lavar (and samuels, we had a chance to get him much cheaper before the walter jones deal) too

03-01-2006, 09:13 AM	#4
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal It's much easier to make rational, logical decisions when the future is known. Unfortunately, the future is...........not............... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

03-01-2006, 10:09 AM	#7
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal lavar being willing and actually getting it done are two different things. I need to see it, words don't mean much. I personally don't hold what people make against them, btu at the same time if they're not playing up to their contract i have no qualms about seeing them go.

03-01-2006, 09:48 AM	#5
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal Heres why I dont understand this.... why wouldn't you renegoiate the deal? Everything as far as base salaries can be gaurnteed after this season, so why wouldnt you renegotiate it and get all that gaurnteed money? Especially when a guy like Brunell will probaboly get cut within the next couple years anyways? __________________ #21

03-01-2006, 10:58 AM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal It's a mat, where you can jump...to...conclusions on! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2006, 11:02 AM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal And make sure you use this next time. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2006, 12:10 PM	#14
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal hey loyalty in the NFL is rare. Especially for a guy that is 36 years old, probably playing for his last team in his career, he isn't going to have the chance at making $4million a year. Plus if he is cut, the team eats 5+million, so why rework your deal? For the betterment of the team, if these guys were worried about the team, wouldn't you think they would play for the minimum every year, and just play for the signing bonuses. He reworked his deal last year because of the season he had, awful. he comes back plays like a probowler, his agent isn't going to let him rework the deal.

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