Brandon Lloyd

ST21 · 03-10-2006, 11:59 AM

No Way....Lets go Joe J., we can sign him for less money and he can go over the middle and take tons of pressure of Santana Moss

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2006, 12:00 PM

If we could pry him from the Hawks, I'd love to have him.

celts32 · 03-10-2006, 12:09 PM

Lloyd is good and young and could command a smaller contract than some of the other unrestricted free agents. We really need to know what compensation Washigton would have to give San fran in order to judge this move. I would not give a 1st or 2nd round pick for Lloyd, but would be interested for something less than that.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2006, 12:11 PM

But that's the whole reason they tendered his offer, so people DO have to give up a decent amount for him.

diehardskin2982 · 03-10-2006, 12:12 PM

he I'd take that bet in Lloyd he is a great reciever

SUNRA · 03-10-2006, 12:13 PM

I've been preaching about Llyod all year. I knew it would be just amount of time before the team caught up to my predictions. We have his 85# jersey already printed and the contract offer ready, just prepare yourself for the press conference next week. Now lets get a pass-rusher and the Superbowl is ours.

celts32 · 03-10-2006, 12:18 PM

They probably don't want to lose him to begin with and are scaring off teams with the 1st round tender. They are kidding if they actually think he's worth a #1...they know they will need to agree to less if it comes to him actually leaving. The 1st round tender is to keep other teams away so that they can negotiate a nice below market contract.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2006, 12:20 PM

True, but they assuming someone will bite on that bluff. I just hope we aren't the one to do so.

celts32 · 03-10-2006, 12:28 PM

The skins don't even have the #1 to bite with...so hopefully that's enough to deter them. Basically Restricted free agency is not free agency at all. All the team needs to do is tender the guy above his worth and that's the end of it. They can tell every team that they are not negotiating and the #1 round pick price tag is final. That would be the end of it and Lloyd is forced to accept the 49ers offer or hold out.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-10-2006, 12:32 PM

Ohhh, I thought the #1 price tag was what you had to give up to be a RFA. Maybe I'm thinking of franchise players.

Monksdown · 03-10-2006, 12:41 PM

Brandon Lloyd video. This guy loves the one handed catch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=brandon+lloyd

celts32 · 03-10-2006, 12:41 PM

Not sure what you mean. I believe when a player is a restricted free agent his current team tenders him an offer. The level of the offer they give him has a corresponding draft pick value. The 49ers really don't want ot lose Lloyd so they gave him a 1st round tender. What that means is that Lloyd is free to sign with any team, but if he does sign the 49ers would have the right to match the offer...should they choose not to then the team that signed Lloyd will have to give the 49ers a 1st round pick. Typically what happens is that the teams get together and agree on a more fair form of compensation if it becomes clear that the player will be moving on.

The Redskins signed Coles as a restricted FA a few years ago and had to give NY a 1st round pick when NY decided not to match the Redskins contract offer.

VTSkins897 · 03-10-2006, 12:43 PM

all the names discussed look good to me. i'll take the best bargain.

That Guy · 03-10-2006, 12:56 PM

llyod makes a circus catch and than drops easy stuff, he's another 50/50 (though he has better ups).

I rather go after nate or K Curtis is we're chasing RFAs (both 3rd round pick reqs) than betting the bank on lloyd. you'd be giving up a drafted starter with any of the 3 though, so i rather just get someone else. lloyd isn't good enough to merit that much.

I would have liked ike, but at 5mill per, that's really expensive.

That Guy · 03-10-2006, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Brandon Lloyd video. This guy loves the one handed catch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=brandon+lloyd

this video proves why we shouldn't get him. he had so many highlight catches they had to repeat them 2, 3, and 4 times within one two minute video.

where's the complementary video of all his drops?

03-10-2006, 11:59 AM	#46
ST21 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 519	Re: Brandon Lloyd No Way....Lets go Joe J., we can sign him for less money and he can go over the middle and take tons of pressure of Santana Moss __________________ SAY HELLO TO THE BAD GUY........

03-10-2006, 12:00 PM	#47
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brandon Lloyd If we could pry him from the Hawks, I'd love to have him. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2006, 12:09 PM	#48
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Brandon Lloyd Lloyd is good and young and could command a smaller contract than some of the other unrestricted free agents. We really need to know what compensation Washigton would have to give San fran in order to judge this move. I would not give a 1st or 2nd round pick for Lloyd, but would be interested for something less than that. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-10-2006, 12:11 PM	#49
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brandon Lloyd But that's the whole reason they tendered his offer, so people DO have to give up a decent amount for him. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2006, 12:12 PM	#50
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Brandon Lloyd he I'd take that bet in Lloyd he is a great reciever __________________ That got ugly fast

03-10-2006, 12:13 PM	#51
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: Brandon Lloyd I've been preaching about Llyod all year. I knew it would be just amount of time before the team caught up to my predictions. We have his 85# jersey already printed and the contract offer ready, just prepare yourself for the press conference next week. Now lets get a pass-rusher and the Superbowl is ours. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

03-10-2006, 12:18 PM	#52
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Brandon Lloyd They probably don't want to lose him to begin with and are scaring off teams with the 1st round tender. They are kidding if they actually think he's worth a #1...they know they will need to agree to less if it comes to him actually leaving. The 1st round tender is to keep other teams away so that they can negotiate a nice below market contract. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-10-2006, 12:20 PM	#53
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brandon Lloyd True, but they assuming someone will bite on that bluff. I just hope we aren't the one to do so. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2006, 12:28 PM	#54
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Brandon Lloyd The skins don't even have the #1 to bite with...so hopefully that's enough to deter them. Basically Restricted free agency is not free agency at all. All the team needs to do is tender the guy above his worth and that's the end of it. They can tell every team that they are not negotiating and the #1 round pick price tag is final. That would be the end of it and Lloyd is forced to accept the 49ers offer or hold out. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-10-2006, 12:32 PM	#55
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brandon Lloyd Ohhh, I thought the #1 price tag was what you had to give up to be a RFA. Maybe I'm thinking of franchise players. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-10-2006, 12:41 PM	#56
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 1,515	Re: Brandon Lloyd Brandon Lloyd video. This guy loves the one handed catch. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=brandon+lloyd

03-10-2006, 12:41 PM	#57
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Brandon Lloyd Not sure what you mean. I believe when a player is a restricted free agent his current team tenders him an offer. The level of the offer they give him has a corresponding draft pick value. The 49ers really don't want ot lose Lloyd so they gave him a 1st round tender. What that means is that Lloyd is free to sign with any team, but if he does sign the 49ers would have the right to match the offer...should they choose not to then the team that signed Lloyd will have to give the 49ers a 1st round pick. Typically what happens is that the teams get together and agree on a more fair form of compensation if it becomes clear that the player will be moving on. The Redskins signed Coles as a restricted FA a few years ago and had to give NY a 1st round pick when NY decided not to match the Redskins contract offer. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-10-2006, 12:43 PM	#58
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 890	Re: Brandon Lloyd all the names discussed look good to me. i'll take the best bargain.

03-10-2006, 12:56 PM	#59
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Brandon Lloyd llyod makes a circus catch and than drops easy stuff, he's another 50/50 (though he has better ups). I rather go after nate or K Curtis is we're chasing RFAs (both 3rd round pick reqs) than betting the bank on lloyd. you'd be giving up a drafted starter with any of the 3 though, so i rather just get someone else. lloyd isn't good enough to merit that much. I would have liked ike, but at 5mill per, that's really expensive.

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